So I’m really confused now what would be the benefit of migrating to the free X 
version versus the free current version?

> On Dec 8, 2020, at 5:04 PM, Steve Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> Is this the same virtual product? Or if we switch to x do we have to migrate 
> to a new on premise or new cloud server? And if the sunscriprionnis cancelled?
> Or is it just turn on and turn off inside of the software?
> 
> And sandwiches, I was told there would be sandwiches
> 
>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020, 3:47 PM John Seaman via AF <[email protected]> wrote:
>> It’s not really two different products.  Think of it as a Freemium model.  
>> You can create a free account in cnMaestro cloud anytime, and start using 
>> it.  Alternatively you can also download the on-prem version and start using 
>> it (also free).
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> If you want the advanced features, then you need a subscription.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> As a wisp, you get all the essential functionality for free, with the basic 
>> version.  These essential functions  include the following (some of these 
>> are Wi-Fi related):
>> 
>> ·       Device onboarding
>> 
>> ·       Monitoring
>> 
>> ·       Configuring
>> 
>> ·       Notifications – alarms & events
>> 
>> ·       Basic captive portal
>> 
>> ·       Dashboard
>> 
>> ·       Device inventory
>> 
>> ·       Network topology
>> 
>> ·       SW updates
>> 
>> ·       Maps
>> 
>> ·       Wireless & wired client view
>> 
>> ·       Floor plan
>> 
>> ·       Moving APs between sites
>> 
>> ·       Remote packet capture/debug, WiFi Analyzer, NW
>> 
>> ·       Connectivity
>> 
>> ·       Link test
>> 
>> ·       Performance KPIs
>> 
>> ·       RF Quality
>> 
>> ·       Satellite view
>> 
>> ·       Email notification
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> The free features are pretty much everything you need unless you want to use 
>> the API functionality and a couple others.   For wisps, cnMaestro X provides 
>> the following “paid” features that will be of interest to some: APIs, 
>> Reports, audit logs.  Most of the other X features are more related to 
>> enterprise Wi-Fi like advanced captive portals, MSP (multi tenancy), and 
>> others.  And, you also get premium tech support (24x7, quick escalation) 
>> with a subscription to X.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> All of these X features have been identified within cnMaestro with a “Pro” 
>> flag for the last few years.  It has been no secret that Cambium has always 
>> been planning to eventually start charging for the Pro features.  That time 
>> has finally come, although instead of naming it cnMaestro Pro, it’s named 
>> cnMaestro X.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Matt feel free to give me a call to discuss.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 858-335-4384
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: Matt Hoppes <[email protected]> 
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 1:01 PM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>> Cc: John Seaman <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I am still really confused as is my distributor.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Are these two different products or is the X just the name for the 
>> management software that has a pay for future model?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Is there anything we are losing that we currently have today if we don’t 
>> start paying for this product that I know nothing about other than through 
>> this mailing list?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 8, 2020, at 3:54 PM, John Seaman via AF <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Assuming the powercode integration is handled through API, yes – that 
>> requires X.  Also correct on payment gateways.  It’s currently flagged as a 
>> “Pro” feature, so that means you’ll need an X subscription to use the 
>> feature going forward.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Steve Jones
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 12:33 PM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Will those with powercode integration on on premise break then?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> And no more payment gateways on captive portal?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020, 2:26 PM John Seaman via AF <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, standard cnMaestro is still free for SM and AP. Here’s the complete 
>> list of what you get with the free version (the first column)  vs. cnMaestro 
>> X.  
>> https://cdn.cambiumnetworks.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/cnMaestro-X-Features-Pricing-Aug-2020-final.pdf
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> cnMaestro X has all the same features as the free version but it also has 
>> additional features not available in the free version.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: Matt Hoppes <[email protected]> 
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 10:54 AM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>> Cc: John Seaman <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> But this is only if using X correct?  Standard maestro will continue to be 
>> free for SM and AP?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I’m confused. What does this X provide that standard doesn’t and why are 
>> free features in standard now pay in X?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Dec 8, 2020, at 1:44 PM, John Seaman via AF <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> That’s correct.  FWB is fixed wireless broadband.  So for wisps there are 
>> two pricing components: SMs (referred to as tier 1) & APs/PTP (referred to 
>> tier 2).  SMs are less expensive than the APs.  For example, for the three 
>> year subscription the SM MSRP is $16 (or $5.33 per year) and APs are $60 
>> ($20 per year).  As for PTP, this includes the sub 6 GHz backhauls like the 
>> PTP 670 and 550 (cnMaestro does not yet support PTP 820).    Pricing for 
>> enterprise Wi-Fi/enterprise gear follows the third schedule, referred to as 
>> Tier 3. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Again, keep in mind that an X subscription also comes along with Cambium 
>> Care Pro which is a 24/7 enhanced tech support service.   Standard tech 
>> support (8x5) is still free.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 6:34 AM
>> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> FWB could be Fixed Wireless Broadband?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 7:23 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> If your friend with benefits wants money then they're a prostitute.
>> 
>> On 12/8/2020 3:21 AM, Ryan Ray wrote:
>> 
>> also what's a FWB? I keep reading it as friends with benefits so you get to 
>> be a friend with benefits if you pay the fee.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 12:19 AM Ryan Ray <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> If I'm reading it right we use PTP, AP, soon to be 60GHz ptmp when it 
>> arrives, so we'll be paying $90 per device? for 5 year? but an AP may not 
>> last that long but we still have to keep track of it. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> It seems confusing. Maybe just because I don't understand it. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 12:17 AM Ryan Ray <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm a little confused on pricing tiers. Can you explain these in more detail 
>> John
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> <image002.png>
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 6:17 PM Josh Baird <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> I believe "config push" will still be a free feature.  At least this is what 
>> John alluded to earlier - and I don't see it listed as a "PRO" feature when 
>> I login.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 9:04 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Id like to know the pricing on long term data and multi tenant. I was 
>> reading the manual on multitenant and so excited then went to do it and was 
>> like damn, kick me in the balls. we are cloud
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I cant get SAS to set up right now, but if you do CBRS its more than config 
>> pushes (also not free)
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Does on prem let you do long term data?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> CnMaestro is like Linkplanner, the product is too good to be completely 
>> free, there has to be some revenue for support and new feature engagement. 
>> Its along the lines of when Unimus was way to cheap to be sustainable
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 5:23 PM Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> I thought it was clear from the beginning that there would be separate free 
>> and paid versions.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On 12/7/2020 6:20 PM, John Seaman via AF wrote:
>> 
>> No, cnMaestro is definitely not EOL.  Basic (free) cnMaestro and X are both 
>> here to stay.
>> 
>> You can download the feature list here.
>> 
>> https://www.cambiumnetworks.com/cnmaestro-x/
>> 
>> It’s notable that X also comes with 24x7 Cambium Care Pro as a value add.
>> 
>> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
>> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 3:16 PM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>> Subject: [ External ] Re: [AFMUG] cnmaestro X
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> So does this mean the current cnMaestro will be EOL?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I can’t find a list of pay vs free features for X. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Dec 7, 2020, at 5:59 PM, Steve D <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Near as I can tell, for us, it's going to be something we only use for 
>> pushing mass-config changes and firmware.  I might even pull back support 
>> access if we really do lose audit logs.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I'll miss the reports it generated.  (At least, whenever our on-prem version 
>> is deemed at the point we *have* to upgrade it...)
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Since we always kind of knew it might happen (hoped not) we never put all 
>> our eggs into the basket, so to speak.  I think it'll still be a useful 
>> tool, just less so going forward.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> -Steve D
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 2:30 PM Sam Lambie <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Now that Cambium has me for +2000 subs on cnmaestro, what am I going to lose 
>> if I don't go to X?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> What do we gain if we do migrate and how much a month/per sub?
>> 
>> hank you for being a part of the cnMaestro beta program and your feedback on 
>> the Pro features. Cambium Networks is proud to announce the release of 
>> cnMaestro X this month, including the Pro features you are using today.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Starting January 4th, you will have the option to turn on cnMaestro X for a 
>> 90-day trial. On April 5th, your account will downgrade to the free version 
>> of cnMaestro if you do not wish to upgrade to cnMaestro X.  
>> 
>> Below are a few cnMaestro X highlights:
>> 
>> Support for Software Defined Radios, high-density Wi-Fi APs, and the new 
>> 60GHz PTP solution
>> Long term historical data
>> MSP features including managed tenant accounts & branding
>> API and webhooks
>> Higher limits for ePSK, admin accounts, and captive portals
>>  
>> 
>> Please contact your distributor or partner for pricing details. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Christy Meaney
>> 
>> 847-264-2198
>> 
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