I’m all about the “Z” ship now.. “X” was soooo pre-2020. haha Space X, iPhoneX, EdgeRouterX..
> On Dec 8, 2020, at 4:59 PM, John Seaman via AF <[email protected]> wrote: > > I think the X ship has sailed… no turning back to Pro. I like X. It sounds > edgy J > From: AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf > Of Ken Hohhof > Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 2:54 PM > To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X > > Is it too late to call it PRO instead of X? Seems like that could have saved > a lot of trouble. > > Naming things has never been Cambium’s strength. Look at the PMP 450 model > numbers. And going from FW version 16 to 20, what’s that about, is it like > Windows 95? I kind of thought cnMaestro X was version number X like Super > Bowl X or Mac OS X. > > From: AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf > Of Sam Lambie > Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 3:59 PM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X > > Thank you John for the information. I feel better now! > > On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 2:47 PM John Seaman via AF <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > It’s not really two different products. Think of it as a Freemium model. > You can create a free account in cnMaestro cloud anytime, and start using it. > Alternatively you can also download the on-prem version and start using it > (also free). > > If you want the advanced features, then you need a subscription. > > As a wisp, you get all the essential functionality for free, with the basic > version. These essential functions include the following (some of these are > Wi-Fi related): > · Device onboarding > > · Monitoring > > · Configuring > > · Notifications – alarms & events > > · Basic captive portal > > · Dashboard > > · Device inventory > > · Network topology > > · SW updates > > · Maps > > · Wireless & wired client view > > · Floor plan > > · Moving APs between sites > > · Remote packet capture/debug, WiFi Analyzer, NW > > · Connectivity > > · Link test > > · Performance KPIs > > · RF Quality > > · Satellite view > > · Email notification > > > The free features are pretty much everything you need unless you want to use > the API functionality and a couple others. For wisps, cnMaestro X provides > the following “paid” features that will be of interest to some: APIs, > Reports, audit logs. Most of the other X features are more related to > enterprise Wi-Fi like advanced captive portals, MSP (multi tenancy), and > others. And, you also get premium tech support (24x7, quick escalation) with > a subscription to X. > > All of these X features have been identified within cnMaestro with a “Pro” > flag for the last few years. It has been no secret that Cambium has always > been planning to eventually start charging for the Pro features. That time > has finally come, although instead of naming it cnMaestro Pro, it’s named > cnMaestro X. > > Matt feel free to give me a call to discuss. > > John > 858-335-4384 > > From: Matt Hoppes <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> > Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 1:01 PM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> > Cc: John Seaman <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X > > I am still really confused as is my distributor. > > Are these two different products or is the X just the name for the management > software that has a pay for future model? > > Is there anything we are losing that we currently have today if we don’t > start paying for this product that I know nothing about other than through > this mailing list? > > > On Dec 8, 2020, at 3:54 PM, John Seaman via AF <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > Assuming the powercode integration is handled through API, yes – that > requires X. Also correct on payment gateways. It’s currently flagged as a > “Pro” feature, so that means you’ll need an X subscription to use the feature > going forward. > > From: AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf > Of Steve Jones > Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 12:33 PM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X > > Will those with powercode integration on on premise break then? > > And no more payment gateways on captive portal? > > On Tue, Dec 8, 2020, 2:26 PM John Seaman via AF <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Yes, standard cnMaestro is still free for SM and AP. Here’s the complete list > of what you get with the free version (the first column) vs. cnMaestro X. > https://cdn.cambiumnetworks.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/cnMaestro-X-Features-Pricing-Aug-2020-final.pdf > > <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.cambiumnetworks.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2020%2F08%2FcnMaestro-X-Features-Pricing-Aug-2020-final.pdf&data=04%7C01%7Cjohn.seaman%40cambiumnetworks.com%7Cf0fe428aaf5f4d892f1d08d89bcc53c8%7C0e263e36340946228ac818d993e76eb6%7C0%7C1%7C637430649203887349%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=Jemtw3dKaCmhcrYISU0tQXU%2FftlglHs%2FzlufnOi5hy8%3D&reserved=0> > > cnMaestro X has all the same features as the free version but it also has > additional features not available in the free version. > > > From: Matt Hoppes <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> > Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 10:54 AM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> > Cc: John Seaman <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X > > But this is only if using X correct? Standard maestro will continue to be > free for SM and AP? > > I’m confused. What does this X provide that standard doesn’t and why are free > features in standard now pay in X? > > > On Dec 8, 2020, at 1:44 PM, John Seaman via AF <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > That’s correct. FWB is fixed wireless broadband. So for wisps there are two > pricing components: SMs (referred to as tier 1) & APs/PTP (referred to tier > 2). SMs are less expensive than the APs. For example, for the three year > subscription the SM MSRP is $16 (or $5.33 per year) and APs are $60 ($20 per > year). As for PTP, this includes the sub 6 GHz backhauls like the PTP 670 > and 550 (cnMaestro does not yet support PTP 820). Pricing for enterprise > Wi-Fi/enterprise gear follows the third schedule, referred to as Tier 3. > > Again, keep in mind that an X subscription also comes along with Cambium Care > Pro which is a 24/7 enhanced tech support service. Standard tech support > (8x5) is still free. > > From: AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf > Of Ken Hohhof > Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 6:34 AM > To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X > > FWB could be Fixed Wireless Broadband? > > From: AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf > Of Adam Moffett > Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 7:23 AM > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X > > If your friend with benefits wants money then they're a prostitute. > > On 12/8/2020 3:21 AM, Ryan Ray wrote: > also what's a FWB? I keep reading it as friends with benefits so you get to > be a friend with benefits if you pay the fee. > > > > On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 12:19 AM Ryan Ray <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > If I'm reading it right we use PTP, AP, soon to be 60GHz ptmp when it > arrives, so we'll be paying $90 per device? for 5 year? but an AP may not > last that long but we still have to keep track of it. > > It seems confusing. Maybe just because I don't understand it. > > On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 12:17 AM Ryan Ray <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > I'm a little confused on pricing tiers. Can you explain these in more detail > John > > <image002.png> > > On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 6:17 PM Josh Baird <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > I believe "config push" will still be a free feature. At least this is what > John alluded to earlier - and I don't see it listed as a "PRO" feature when I > login. > > On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 9:04 PM Steve Jones <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Id like to know the pricing on long term data and multi tenant. I was reading > the manual on multitenant and so excited then went to do it and was like > damn, kick me in the balls. we are cloud > > I cant get SAS to set up right now, but if you do CBRS its more than config > pushes (also not free) > > Does on prem let you do long term data? > > CnMaestro is like Linkplanner, the product is too good to be completely free, > there has to be some revenue for support and new feature engagement. Its > along the lines of when Unimus was way to cheap to be sustainable > > On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 5:23 PM Adam Moffett <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > I thought it was clear from the beginning that there would be separate free > and paid versions. > > > > On 12/7/2020 6:20 PM, John Seaman via AF wrote: > No, cnMaestro is definitely not EOL. Basic (free) cnMaestro and X are both > here to stay. > You can download the feature list here. > https://www.cambiumnetworks.com/cnmaestro-x/ > <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cambiumnetworks.com%2Fcnmaestro-x%2F&data=04%7C01%7Cjohn.seaman%40cambiumnetworks.com%7Cf0fe428aaf5f4d892f1d08d89bcc53c8%7C0e263e36340946228ac818d993e76eb6%7C0%7C1%7C637430649203897341%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=v4IZg25LXNGnS3bzfZAEqBbVq%2FufJxHTPhO%2FH1HkIX8%3D&reserved=0> > It’s notable that X also comes with 24x7 Cambium Care Pro as a value add. > From: AF <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> On Behalf > Of Matt Hoppes > Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 3:16 PM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> > <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: [ External ] Re: [AFMUG] cnmaestro X > > So does this mean the current cnMaestro will be EOL? > > I can’t find a list of pay vs free features for X. > > > On Dec 7, 2020, at 5:59 PM, Steve D <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > Near as I can tell, for us, it's going to be something we only use for > pushing mass-config changes and firmware. I might even pull back support > access if we really do lose audit logs. > > I'll miss the reports it generated. (At least, whenever our on-prem version > is deemed at the point we *have* to upgrade it...) > > Since we always kind of knew it might happen (hoped not) we never put all our > eggs into the basket, so to speak. I think it'll still be a useful tool, > just less so going forward. > > -Steve D > > > > On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 2:30 PM Sam Lambie <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Now that Cambium has me for +2000 subs on cnmaestro, what am I going to lose > if I don't go to X? > > What do we gain if we do migrate and how much a month/per sub? > hank you for being a part of the cnMaestro beta program and your feedback on > the Pro features. Cambium Networks is proud to announce the release of > cnMaestro X this month, including the Pro features you are using today. > > > > > > Starting January 4th, you will have the option to turn on cnMaestro X for a > 90-day trial. On April 5th, your account will downgrade to the free version > of cnMaestro if you do not wish to upgrade to cnMaestro X. > > Below are a few cnMaestro X highlights: > > Support for Software Defined Radios, high-density Wi-Fi APs, and the new > 60GHz PTP solution > Long term historical data > MSP features including managed tenant accounts & branding > API and webhooks > Higher limits for ePSK, admin accounts, and captive portals > > > Please contact your distributor or partner for pricing details. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Christy Meaney > > 847-264-2198 > > Calendar > 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