Was this as abrupt as it feels or did I drop the ball somewhere and miss something telling me this was coming. I'm on zero linux lists, cause I know little of linux
On Sat, Dec 12, 2020, 9:55 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: > Well, that blog post seems very persuasive. Doesn’t mean it’s accurate. > Why have I never heard of Oracle Linux? I’m going to assume this is in no > way an outgrowth of Solaris. > > > > My perhaps uninformed opinion of Oracle is negative, based on my opinion > that Larry Ellison is a self-important rich dickhead, and that Oracle buys > companies to kill them. Not sure that’s entirely accurate, or relevant to > evaluating Oracle Linux. > > > > I am on the mailing list for BlueOnyx which is the successor to the old > Sun Cobalt web hosting appliances and is built on CentOS. Michael Stauber > the main developer said he has a side project to develop a Debian based > version which has made little progress because moving his development > environment from spitting out RPMs to DEBs turned out to be a monumental > undertaking. Maybe I’ll ask about Oracle Linux on the list. People there > will know tons more than me, and are often not shy about stating opinions. > > > > > > *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones > *Sent:* Saturday, December 12, 2020 9:26 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Centos is dead? > > > > I'm too old for this shit > > > > On Sat, Dec 12, 2020, 9:22 PM Lincs Chel <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi; > > I think another option to consider would be Oracle Linux. Consider the > following from their blog, news and website:- > > > - If you are reading this blog, you are probably a CentOS user and are > in the position where you need to look at alternatives going forward. > Switching to Oracle Linux is easy. > > > - > > https://blogs.oracle.com/linux/need-a-stable%2c-rhel-compatible-alternative-to-centos-three-reasons-to-consider-oracle-linux > > > - Need a stable, RHEL compatible alternative to CentOS? > > > - https://www.oracle.com/linux/ > > > > Another option if you're using cPanel & WHM is to most likely use them as > a good guide:- > > - cPanel Support For CentOS 8 And More > > > - https://blog.cpanel.com/centos-8-end-of-life-announcement/ > > > > And, if you're coming from the old Cobalt Networks RaQ server era days > and/or BlueOnyx, they have a good blog, news & comments. Probably their > posture may be the best position to take when looking and/or want to > "marry" with a particular distro which had various roadmaps during their > history. > > > - BlueOnyx has been available on CentOS since CentOS 5, but as the > CentOS project never was without issues and unpredictability. Therefore > we've never been fully "married" to it. It's always been more of a matter > of convenience than one of choice. We even departed briefly from CentOS > during the CentOS 6 days and favored Scientific Linux 6 instead. Since then > we kept our eyes and ears open for alternatives and also contemplated > contingencies. > > > > - You are here: Welcome to BlueOnyx» News > CentOS Project shifts focus to CentOS Stream > > > - > > https://www.blueonyx.it/news/280/54/CentOS-Project-shifts-focus-to-CentOS-Stream/d,Simplex%20News%20Detail > > Based on BlueOnyx website news, they have indicated the original founder > of CentOS is considering a possible return:- > > And like mentioned above: We're not the only ones whom RedHat pulled the > rug out from under our feet. > > In fact Gregory Kurtzer (co-founder of CentOS) had this to say > <https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/#comment-183642>: > > I am considering creating another rebuild of RHEL and may even be able to > hire some people for this effort. If you are interested in helping, please > join the HPCng slack (link on the website hpcng.org). > > Greg (original founder of CentOS) > > > > If you've installed and use cnMaestro and Cambium's software on CentOS, > then the impact may even be more on your operations. I am guessing > Cambium's cnMaestro may drop support for CentOS eventually. > > > > Lincoln > > > > On 12/12/2020 11:39 AM, Bill Prince wrote: > > Mostly. IBM charges quite a bit for it, but they're big blue. Not sure > what they're getting out of their multi-billion dollar purchase, but we > would have to sit in their board room to understand their thinking. I > wouldn't be surprised to see that they are saving money by getting all > those community developers do the work for next to nothing. Sure cuts down > on the expenses in the development department. > > The only real issue is which version of linux you want hook your wagon to. > I used Centos for quite a long time; mainly because it was "enterprise". > Then it go too "enterprise" for my taste, and have since switched to > Debian. It's the same, but different. Same enough for my taste, and > down-homey enough for the small operation we are. > > NBD. > > > > bp > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > On 12/12/2020 8:14 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > > Linux... linux is free... right? > > > > *From:* Ken Hohhof > > *Sent:* Saturday, December 12, 2020 8:39 AM > > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Centos is dead? > > > > I guess it would have been naïve of us all to expect no change when IBM > acquired RedHat. > > > > *From:* AF <[email protected]> <[email protected]> *On Behalf > Of *Steve Jones > *Sent:* Friday, December 11, 2020 11:58 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Centos is dead? > > > > Holy shit, I just took a cursory look at redhat pricing. Starts at 350 a > year per server, physical server only, and not intended for production use. > 2500 a year for the data center if I read it right > > > > I run webmin to manage package updates and BIND. If I'm reading correctly > ubuntu isnt terrible, just less security patched since it's all opensource > and not subsidized by a big dog like red hat. Probably doable, but no yum. > > > > Has something like this happenned with centos historically? I assume the > linux community will bring about a comparable solution or resolution. > > > > This just stinks, I had my centos process down. > > > > Is this end of life like a microst end of life where they just keep > patching and saying they mean it this time for years? > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 11, 2020, 11:28 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: > > Supposedly there will be CentOS Stream? Kind of like RHEL beta instead of > RHEL day old bread. I guess their answer would be if you are using it in a > production environment you could always pay for RHEL. Or there’s Fedora. > I believe Preseem runs on Fedora. > > > > *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett > *Sent:* Friday, December 11, 2020 10:19 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Centos is dead? > > > > Debian is like Ubuntu ,only better. ;-) > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Steve Jones" <[email protected]> > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]> > *Sent: *Friday, December 11, 2020 5:12:13 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Centos is dead? > > I've been a peasant my whole life, is there any other way? > > I think powercode is ubuntu now, so I'll probably go that route, are there > major differences to it? > > I dont like saying ubuntu, too much like ubnt > > > > On Fri, Dec 11, 2020, 3:47 PM Seth Mattinen <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 12/11/20 13:21, Steve Jones wrote: > > Am I reading all this right? Redhat officially killed centos and its > > tombstoned in 2021? > > > > Everything I run is centos. It's not like I know centos but I have my > > resource sets on where to go to resolve anything that pops up. > > > > Is this just a normal thing in the linux world where something is ended > > but actually just rebrands and keeps going or is it a legit end of the > OS? > > > It happens. Someone will probably fork it and make up a new distro if > that hasn't happened already. IMO the main reason to use CentOS was > because it was rebuilt RHEL. > > I gave up on Red Hat about two releases into Fedora Core when it became > obvious it was just rapidly changing garbage for testing on the peasants > before bringing fixes into their commercial version. > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > ------------------------------ > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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