Re: [AFMUG] Centos is dead?

Sun, 13 Dec 2020 10:35:01 -0800 

Long live Debian and its variants :)


On 12/13/2020 12:02 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
This is another discussion about the alternatives. Keep in mind, this is just another opinion. 

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/12/centos-linux-is-gone-but-its-refugees-have-alternatives/


To summarize:

1. CentOS Stream
2. Oracle Linux
3. Cloud Linux
4. Springdale Linux
5. Rocky Linux
6. HPE ClearOS


bp
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On 12/12/2020 7:19 PM, Lincs Chel wrote:


Hi;
I think another option to consider would be Oracle Linux. Consider the following from their blog, news and website:- 

 *

    If you are reading this blog, you are probably a CentOS user and
    are in the position where you need to look at alternatives going
    forward. Switching to Oracle Linux is easy.

      o 
https://blogs.oracle.com/linux/need-a-stable%2c-rhel-compatible-alternative-to-centos-three-reasons-to-consider-oracle-linux
        
<https://blogs.oracle.com/linux/need-a-stable%2c-rhel-compatible-alternative-to-centos-three-reasons-to-consider-oracle-linux>
 *
Need a stable, RHEL compatible alternative to CentOS? 
      o https://www.oracle.com/linux/ <https://www.oracle.com/linux/>
Another option if you're using cPanel & WHM is to most likely use them as a good guide:- 

  * cPanel Support For CentOS 8 And More
      o https://blog.cpanel.com/centos-8-end-of-life-announcement/
        <https://blog.cpanel.com/centos-8-end-of-life-announcement/>
And, if you're coming from the old Cobalt Networks RaQ server era days and/or BlueOnyx, they have a good blog, news & comments.  Probably their posture may be the best position to take when looking and/or want to "marry" with a particular distro which had various roadmaps during their history. 

 *

    BlueOnyx has been available on CentOS since CentOS 5, but as the
    CentOS project never was without issues and unpredictability.
    Therefore we've never been fully "married" to it. It's always
    been more of a matter of convenience than one of choice. We even
    departed briefly from CentOS during the CentOS 6 days and
    favored Scientific Linux 6 instead. Since then we kept our eyes
    and ears open for alternatives and also contemplated contingencies.


  * You are here: Welcome to BlueOnyx» News
    CentOS Project shifts focus to CentOS Stream
      o 
https://www.blueonyx.it/news/280/54/CentOS-Project-shifts-focus-to-CentOS-Stream/d,Simplex%20News%20Detail
        
<https://www.blueonyx.it/news/280/54/CentOS-Project-shifts-focus-to-CentOS-Stream/d,Simplex%20News%20Detail>
Based on BlueOnyx website news, they have indicated the original founder of CentOS is considering a possible return:- 


    And like mentioned above: We're not the only ones whom RedHat
    pulled the rug out from under our feet.

    In fact Gregory Kurtzer (co-founder of CentOS) had this to say
    <https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/#comment-183642>:

        I am considering creating another rebuild of RHEL and may
        even be able to hire some people for this effort. If you are
        interested in helping, please join the HPCng slack (link on
        the website hpcng.org).

        Greg (original founder of CentOS)
If you've installed and use cnMaestro and Cambium's software on CentOS, then the impact may even be more on your operations.  I am guessing Cambium's cnMaestro may drop support for CentOS eventually. 


Lincoln


On 12/12/2020 11:39 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
Mostly. IBM charges quite a bit for it, but they're big blue. Not sure what they're getting out of their multi-billion dollar purchase, but we would have to sit in their board room to understand their thinking. I wouldn't be surprised to see that they are saving money by getting all those community developers do the work for next to nothing. Sure cuts down on the expenses in the development department.
The only real issue is which version of linux you want hook your wagon to. I used Centos for quite a long time; mainly because it was "enterprise". Then it go too "enterprise" for my taste, and have since switched to Debian. It's the same, but different. Same enough for my taste, and down-homey enough for the small operation we are. 

NBD.


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On 12/12/2020 8:14 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

Linux... linux is free... right?
*From:* Ken Hohhof
*Sent:* Saturday, December 12, 2020 8:39 AM
*To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Centos is dead?
I guess it would have been naïve of us all to expect no change when IBM acquired RedHat. 

*From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
*Sent:* Friday, December 11, 2020 11:58 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Centos is dead?
Holy shit, I just took a cursory look at redhat pricing. Starts at 350 a year per server, physical server only, and not intended for production use. 2500 a year for the data center if I read it right
I run webmin to manage package updates and BIND. If I'm reading correctly ubuntu isnt terrible, just less security patched since it's all opensource and not subsidized by a big dog like red hat. Probably doable, but no yum.
Has something like this happenned with centos historically? I assume the linux community will bring about a comparable solution or resolution. 

This just stinks, I had my centos process down.
Is this end of life like a microst end of life where they just keep patching and saying they mean it this time for years? 

On Fri, Dec 11, 2020, 11:28 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:

    Supposedly there will be CentOS Stream?  Kind of like RHEL beta
    instead of RHEL day old bread. I guess their answer would be if
    you are using it in a production environment you could always
    pay for RHEL.  Or there’s Fedora.  I believe Preseem runs on
    Fedora.

    *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
    *Sent:* Friday, December 11, 2020 10:19 PM
    *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Centos is dead?

    Debian is like Ubuntu ,only better.  ;-)



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    *From: *"Steve Jones" <[email protected]>
    *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]>
    *Sent: *Friday, December 11, 2020 5:12:13 PM
    *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Centos is dead?

    I've been a peasant my whole life, is there any other way?

    I think powercode is ubuntu now, so I'll probably go that
    route, are there major differences to it?

    I dont like saying ubuntu, too much like ubnt

    On Fri, Dec 11, 2020, 3:47 PM Seth Mattinen
    <[email protected]> wrote:

        On 12/11/20 13:21, Steve Jones wrote:
        > Am I reading all this right? Redhat officially killed
        centos and its
        > tombstoned in 2021?
        >
        > Everything I run is centos. It's not like I know centos
        but I have my
        > resource sets on where to go to resolve anything that
        pops up.
        >
        > Is this just a normal thing in the linux world where
        something is ended
        > but actually just rebrands and keeps going or is it a
        legit end of the OS?


        It happens. Someone will probably fork it and make up a new
        distro if
        that hasn't happened already. IMO the main reason to use
        CentOS was
        because it was rebuilt RHEL.

        I gave up on Red Hat about two releases into Fedora Core
        when it became
        obvious it was just rapidly changing garbage for testing on
        the peasants
        before bringing fixes into their commercial version.
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