But the service is available either way. The difference is a free
install vs a few hundred dollars install.
On 12/16/2020 1:38 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
I don't completely agree with that. It could reasonably be argued that
satellite companies could provide rural broadband more cost
effectively than almost anyone else. They are, in fact, building
infrastructure to cover the entire planet, which happens to also cover
rural America.
bp
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On 12/16/2020 10:30 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
.....the original point was about SpaceX though. I don't think
satellite companies should get rural broadband funding. They didn't
build any rural infrastructure. It's not as though they have
designated "rural" satellites that they launched for that purpose.
Hughes uses their funding to subsidize CPE installation costs, and I
assume SpaceX will do the same.
On 12/16/2020 1:28 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
I do understand that position. Until a year or two ago I called
myself a Libertarian (that's a whole other story).
There are places that would never have phone or electric without
government intervention. The choice was made 90 years ago to
develop those areas. If we're not going to continue that with
internet access then logically we should take away the rural phone
and electric too. Let the free market not serve them or charge them
the true cost of serving them. Facing brutal choices like that
swayed me away from pure Libertarianism. It didn't help that the
other Libertarians tended to be lunatics (but again, that's another
story).
On 12/16/2020 1:01 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
I'm a big fan of letting the market take care of it. If there is a
demand, then a WISP will likely meet it. If not, either deal with
it or move somewhere that has service. Maybe that is another
argument entirely, but I think we're searching for a solution to a
problem that doesn't exist.
On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 11:34 AM Adam Moffett <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Is it better to fund Frontier FTTH and risk them being evil,
incompetent Frontier or better to leave rural WV unserved?
It's easy to sit back in our comfy chairs and say Frontier
doesn't deserve that money, but then what do we do after not
giving it to them?
On 12/16/2020 12:24 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
It should probably be a requirement that you aren't under
bankruptcy protection if you're going to be getting public
money. Plus Frontier is just generally incompetent, hence the
bankruptcy.
On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 10:58 AM Adam Moffett
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I saw the senator's complaint. I can't speak to
Frontier's competency, but Frontier threw their hat in the
ring to voluntarily serve unprofitable areas with
government assistance. I'm betting the senator's
complaint is moot because nobody else wants that job.
On 12/15/2020 12:50 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
I forget who was complaining that SpaceX was getting RDOF
money to serve areas like universities and airports, but
FreePress is complaining about the same thing.
Keep in mind this is FreePress, which likes criticizing
Internet policy a lot. Also winners still have to submit
their long forms.
https://www.freepress.net/our-response/expert-analysis/insights-opinions/broadband-boondoggle-ajit-pais-886m-gift-elon-musk
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I also saw that a WV senator was objecting money to
Frontier which she said was not competent to deliver
gigabit service in her state.
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