Re: [AFMUG] SpaceX RDOF boondoggle?

Wed, 16 Dec 2020 11:09:46 -0800

Banana pants for sure. Do bananas burn? Maybe if you soak dried banana peels in gasoline; then your banana pants could catch fire.

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On 12/16/2020 11:05 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

It’s like all the arguing over how many locations can get gigabit Internet.  That’s a first world problem.  Rural areas would be like pigs in mud if they could get 100M or even 25M.  I saw some expert quoted (and I think it was in a WISPA newsletter) that farms needed gigabit.  No backup for that assertion, I am pretty sure he pulled it out of his ass.

 

Some rural senator said we are arguing about 4G vs 5G and his farm had no G.

 

It’s like the kids who can’t do their Zoom classes, and people want you to believe they need 25 or 100 or 1000 Mbps for that.  No, they need a little over 1 Mbps for each kid.  I’m not saying they should only get 3M or 5M service, but if you’re telling people that rural kids can’t do their video classes unless they get 100M or gigabit, that’s a load of crap.  And the people who say that either have an agenda, or their pants are on fire.

 

From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jason McKemie
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 12:01 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SpaceX RDOF boondoggle?

 

I'm a big fan of letting the market take care of it.  If there is a demand, then a WISP will likely meet it.  If not, either deal with it or move somewhere that has service.  Maybe that is another argument entirely, but I think we're searching for a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.

 

On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 11:34 AM Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:

Is it better to fund Frontier FTTH and risk them being evil, incompetent Frontier or better to leave rural WV unserved?  It's easy to sit back in our comfy chairs and say Frontier doesn't deserve that money, but then what do we do after not giving it to them?

On 12/16/2020 12:24 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:

It should probably be a requirement that you aren't under bankruptcy protection if you're going to be getting public money.  Plus Frontier is just generally incompetent, hence the bankruptcy. 

 

On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 10:58 AM Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:

I saw the senator's complaint.  I can't speak to Frontier's competency, but Frontier threw their hat in the ring to voluntarily serve unprofitable areas with government assistance.  I'm betting the senator's complaint is moot because nobody else wants that job.

 

On 12/15/2020 12:50 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

I forget who was complaining that SpaceX was getting RDOF money to serve areas like universities and airports, but FreePress is complaining about the same thing.

 

Keep in mind this is FreePress, which likes criticizing Internet policy a lot.  Also winners still have to submit their long forms.

 

https://www.freepress.net/our-response/expert-analysis/insights-opinions/broadband-boondoggle-ajit-pais-886m-gift-elon-musk

 

I also saw that a WV senator was objecting money to Frontier which she said was not competent to deliver gigabit service in her state.

 

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