That is how it usually is. I don't know what program is giving out cash
up front, but please sign me up for that.
Proving you built it starts with invoices for all the crap you bought
and ends with physical audit. The terms are not the same in every
program, but typically you get reimbursed based on invoices you paid.
The physical audit comes later. I suppose if you wanted to take the
money and skip town you could produce a lot of fake invoices from all
the vendors, but you'd have to know that it's a temporary thing and have
your permanent vacation to Brazil already planned.
On 12/16/2020 2:22 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
I wish funding would change to a retroactive award, ie, you build it,
you prove it, you get reimbursed. Reimbursement award chart can be
public per region. Awards have rate cap requirements to avoid
predatory monopolies. You really only need to self fund your first
build, subsequent awards fund subsequent builds if you choose that
model. Keeps things fair and gives opportunity for small operators to
step up their game rather than being over built with government money
and poor quality/customer service.
Funding should also be based on regional polling. We can send ballots
to every address and census workers, we should be able to verify there
is actual demand not being met before we dump cash into it
On Wed, Dec 16, 2020, 1:09 PM Bill Prince <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Banana pants for sure. Do bananas burn? Maybe if you soak dried
banana peels in gasoline; then your banana pants could catch fire.
bp
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On 12/16/2020 11:05 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
It’s like all the arguing over how many locations can get gigabit
Internet. That’s a first world problem. Rural areas would be
like pigs in mud if they could get 100M or even 25M. I saw some
expert quoted (and I think it was in a WISPA newsletter) that
farms needed gigabit. No backup for that assertion, I am pretty
sure he pulled it out of his ass.
Some rural senator said we are arguing about 4G vs 5G and his
farm had no G.
It’s like the kids who can’t do their Zoom classes, and people
want you to believe they need 25 or 100 or 1000 Mbps for that.
No, they need a little over 1 Mbps for each kid. I’m not saying
they should only get 3M or 5M service, but if you’re telling
people that rural kids can’t do their video classes unless they
get 100M or gigabit, that’s a load of crap. And the people who
say that either have an agenda, or their pants are on fire.
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*Sent:* Wednesday, December 16, 2020 12:01 PM
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*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SpaceX RDOF boondoggle?
I'm a big fan of letting the market take care of it. If there is
a demand, then a WISP will likely meet it. If not, either deal
with it or move somewhere that has service. Maybe that is
another argument entirely, but I think we're searching for a
solution to a problem that doesn't exist.
On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 11:34 AM Adam Moffett
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Is it better to fund Frontier FTTH and risk them being evil,
incompetent Frontier or better to leave rural WV unserved?
It's easy to sit back in our comfy chairs and say Frontier
doesn't deserve that money, but then what do we do after not
giving it to them?
On 12/16/2020 12:24 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
It should probably be a requirement that you aren't under
bankruptcy protection if you're going to be getting
public money. Plus Frontier is just generally
incompetent, hence the bankruptcy.
On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 10:58 AM Adam Moffett
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I saw the senator's complaint. I can't speak to
Frontier's competency, but Frontier threw their hat
in the ring to voluntarily serve unprofitable areas
with government assistance. I'm betting the
senator's complaint is moot because nobody else wants
that job.
On 12/15/2020 12:50 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
I forget who was complaining that SpaceX was
getting RDOF money to serve areas like
universities and airports, but FreePress is
complaining about the same thing.
Keep in mind this is FreePress, which likes
criticizing Internet policy a lot. Also winners
still have to submit their long forms.
https://www.freepress.net/our-response/expert-analysis/insights-opinions/broadband-boondoggle-ajit-pais-886m-gift-elon-musk
<https://www.freepress.net/our-response/expert-analysis/insights-opinions/broadband-boondoggle-ajit-pais-886m-gift-elon-musk>
I also saw that a WV senator was objecting money
to Frontier which she said was not competent to
deliver gigabit service in her state.
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