I really like the sales rep.  Have done business with him for years.  Perhaps 
he had a hangover.  
And I doubt it ever happens again.  I actually feel sorry for him having my 
comment get back to him.  

When you are on a camp out with your huntin’ buddies it is expected.  Or out 
drinking all night.  Or starring in an action adventure movie (when did this 
become a thing).  Guess I need to go watch “Team America” again to get my ears 
toughened up.  

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 11:20 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: FB

Can we agree to ban the U bomb in its entirety though, with the exception of 
alternative chuck who has a pass from good chuck? 

I watch sales reps, that's the course correction I'm looking at, they're 
chameleons, I've kind of gotten to a point where it's a game of curiosity, like 
trying to figure out bot scripts in yahoo chat back in the day (type the word 
human, bot, or real and the response will be that they're not a bot, etc) 
I dont know if our industry rep software is the same as nail salons, but their 
software has detail cards on each client to remember their details, family, 
pets, etc including their general disposition.

I've found few reps that will swear right off the bat, but most dont. But if 
you slipped in a swear word, theyll slip in a swear word. If you go off on a 
crossword holiday, theyll go full sailor. The funnest game is to get godly 
between communications, and see how they correct course. So one phone call, 
drop some S and F bombs. Then the next call dont, and mention a church sermon.
I've found they test the swear waters with an Ass. 
I assume they try to align their persona with a customers persona to make a 
customer comfortable dropping coin.

Chucks experience is an odd one, to be honest I dont think I'd do business with 
that rep again if he didnt have products worth looking at.

That's business relations though. A mailing list is a mailing list. People have 
a hard time keeping things threaded to filter out noise. I try to keep my noise 
in the thread though the troll in me makes that a momentous task, I would 
apologize if I were an apologist, but I'm frankly more of a d@#khead than 
anything else. I blame my mother for being too kind.


On Fri, Jan 8, 2021, 12:03 PM Mark - Myakka Technologies <[email protected]> 
wrote:

  Bill,

  Maybe we need a different tag than OT for political stuff.  I agree some of 
the OT stuff is entertaining and maybe informative.  A separate political tag 
would allow people to filter it out and not lose the OT stuff. 

  --
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  Mark                            mailto:[email protected]

  Myakka Technologies, Inc.
  www.Myakka.com

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  Friday, January 8, 2021, 11:48:09 AM, you wrote:


       I put all OT threads in a folder all to themselves. I look at that 
folder when I feel like I need/want some entertainment. F-bombs and other 
atrocities do not bother me. That stopped being an issue for me back when I was 
in college.

        bp
        <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
        On 1/8/2021 7:46 AM, Colin Stanners wrote:

             One good thing is that AFMUG's main purpose/topic is understood by 
everyone. I don't filter out all OT posts as some 
relatively-WISP/FISP-unrelated technical topics are useful. 

              But most political threads, as others have said, don't result in 
much useful change or new information in the end. Everyone's opinions are 
already pretty solidified. Instead of creating many new mailing list filters or 
categories, I think it'd be better avoided altogether once conversations start 
or become too political.


              On Fri, Jan 8, 2021, 9:30 AM Bill Prince <[email protected]> 
wrote:

                   Many times I want to post about something that is 
peripherally related to the industry. However, it may not be direct; Starlink 
news might be one of those. That is safely OT, and if someone thinks it isn't, 
then fine. No harm, no foul.
                    However, I also know personally many of the people on this 
list, and it is helpful to me to hear what they have to say. Sometimes that 
dips into politics. I don't want to lose those friends.
                    Putting in filters for off topic items should be a no 
brainer for each and every individual on this list. Perhaps a different tag for 
such topics? Maybe WOT (Way Off Topic), or NSFW, or POL as a prefix? Is that 
like having your cake and eating it too?

                    bp
                    <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
                    On 1/8/2021 7:22 AM, D. Bernardi wrote:

                         


                          My .02, as mostly a lurker...

                          A agree 100% with this statement. Some political 
views seem to be OK.

                          For an RF rookie, this list has some invaluable 
technical content for me even though after a few responses threads can go on a 
tangent.  Signal to noise can be rather low at times but I still find it 
valuable overall.

                          Tagging the subject with OT should be a managable way 
to deal with non-technical content. 



                          At 02:14 PM 1/7/2021, you wrote:

                               Chuck,

                                I know it is your list and your rules, but you 
can't say crap like "The DC crap today does not hold a candle in magnitude to 
the Portland and Seattle crap largely done by the other side.  Give and 
take."  and not expect it to start a political argument.  I think you are 
abundantly and dangerously wrong about that but I'm (mostly) holding my 
tongue.  We can't have a list where one sided inflammatory BS like that is 
allowed but countering it is not.   We either allow political discussions, 
which I'm fine with, or we make a no politics rule.  The latter seems to be 
the best option as there are too many brilliant minds who we will lose if we 
keep it up.  

                                On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 4:37 PM Chuck McCown via 
AF <[email protected]> wrote:
                                Sorry.  I don’t want to go back to the days 
of lent, but we have to remain civil to do so.  
                                Â 
                                The DC crap today does not hold a candle in 
magnitude to the Portland and Seattle crap largely done by the other side.  
Give and take.
                                Â 
                                Folks wanna blow off steam.  It will be 
history tomorrow.  
                                Â 
                                No need to pollute our list here with that 
energy, from either side.  
                                Â 
                                From: Steve Jones 
                                Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2021 3:32 PM
                                To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
                                Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: FB
                                Â 
                                youre no fun dad 
                                Â 
                                Lent?
                                Â 
                                On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 4:31 PM Chuck McCown via 
AF <[email protected]> wrote:
                                Kill thread.  We had been well behaved but 
nobody wants to see a bunch of F words in a subject line.  There have been 
complaints.  
                                Â 
                                From: Mathew Howard 
                                Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2021 3:23 PM
                                To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
                                Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Fucking Bullshit
                                Â 
                                That's the real problem. I've come to the 
conclusion that almost no so-called news having anything to do with politics is 
honest or reliable, no matter which side it comes from. Almost all of it is 
slanted (if not outright dishonest) to either fit their own view or manipulate 
their consumers into supporting a particular agenda. Unfortunately, there seems 
to be very little that can be done to fix it.
                                Â 
                                On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 4:17 PM Craig House 
<[email protected]> wrote:
                                " a nugget of truth with a layer of bullshit on 
top"Â  Is exactly how I take every bit of news from every outlet on every 
station.   It is even more the case when the source is a politician or anyone 
with a political agenda.  This includes most of the people on this list.   
Very few on either side can really provide an objective argument on politics 
today.  I'd include myself in that group therefore I tend to just delete or 
not reply to these group messages because it only furthers the divide.   I 
honestly dont see any long term solution to the divide we have today.   
Mainstream media isn't going to help.  Congress isn't going to help and Trump 
isn't going to help.  Neither is anyone's opinion on this list 
                                Â 
                                Â 

------------------------------------------------
                                From: "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]>
                                To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
<[email protected]>
                                Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2021 4:09:22 PM
                                Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Fucking Bullshit
                                Â 

                                Look at the evidence closely and in each case 
you'll find a nugget of truth with a layer of bullshit on top.  That so many 
people are so thoroughly fooled by it is the most distressing part.  Look 
closer.  Stop being a fool.

                                The "coup" is when the loser thinks he can win 
by pretending hard enough.

                                Â 
                                On 1/6/2021 5:05 PM, justsumname wrote:
                                an election that is not conducted according to 
law is not an election.   it's a coup. 
                                Worse... if the 'election' is not transparent, 
verifiable, and treats every voter the same, it's not an "election".
                                Worse ... if poll watchers are bullied and 
physically threatened... that is intolerable. 
                                Â 
                                hereistheevidence.com   --- in case you dare 
open your mind to truth
                                Â 
                                Patton was correct, and so was that McCarthy 
guy, who was probably a commie plant because he did a great job discrediting 
'his' message.
                                Â 
                                All that is left is communism or war.   That 
was the plan all along and only 'crazy' people  -- and people who escaped 
communist societies to come warn us -- saw it or believed in it.
                                Â 
                                I'll sign off with this, because this is 
probably The End:
                                Â 
                                “In my study of communist societies, I came 
to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade 
or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it 
corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent 
when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are 
forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of 
probity. To assent to obvious lies is...in some small way to become evil 
oneself. One's standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. 
A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine 
political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.†~ Theodore 
Dalrymple
                                Â 
                                You arrogant asses, you've killed us!
                                --
                                Â 
                                Â 
                                On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 4:30 PM Steve Jones 
<[email protected]> wrote:
                                go drink some tecate, youre losing your mind
                                Â 
                                On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 3:26 PM Jaime Solorza 
<[email protected]> wrote:
                                Did you just hear his tweeter video bullshit? 
Fuck Trump... Kruchev predicted it... Trump enabled it. 
                                Â 
                                Go ahead and get off this list
                                Fuck Trump and his Trumpicans...
                                This is an Insurrection..Rudy called for trial 
by combat, Trump said it was going to be wild ...
                                So fuck them to hell.
                                Â 
                                On Wed, Jan 6, 2021, 2:11 PM Steve Jones 
<[email protected]> wrote:
                                IKR, slides biden is demanding potus go on 
national TV to quell it, unlike during the biden obama administration when he 
didnt demand the same. god this is funny. sad they havent shot more of these 
mopes today and historically
                                Â 
                                On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 2:50 PM Jaime Solorza 
<[email protected]> wrote:
                                WTF...third world country tactics... 
                                Insurrection...
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