In a long string of subject lines with F bombs, it does repulse me.  I don’t 
typically use any profanity at all and none around me do.  I don’t hear it in 
business settings or out on job sites.  Perhaps it is a Utah thing.  But I deal 
with folks all over the world and it really never appears in emails or phone 
conversations.  

Once in a while we run into a salty character but it is rare.  I had a local 
distributor sales rep in my office a while back dropping the F bomb all over 
the place.  Almost like he was drunk.  It was unusual.  Found it unusual.  I 
thought it was pretty impolite as my wife was sitting right next to me as he 
was behaving this way.  I have known this guy for a long time and never 
witnessed this behavior before.  

I mentioned it to a friend that reps products that other company carries.  He 
was shocked.  Had never seen that guy behave like that either.  He then 
mentioned it to one of the bosses at the distributorship and I had an instant 
apology.  I was not asking for one.  I was not trying to get the guy in 
trouble.  But they all took it very seriously.  

Again, this could be a local Utah thing, but when I ran my manufacturing 
business in Quincy, Ill we never had this happen there either.  There was one 
guy named Bob that worked for Harris Broadcast that was foul mouthed and 
everyone in town talked about him.  But that was about it.  

Maybe I give off a “don’t f with me” vibe or something.  I don’t consider 
myself puritanical or a prude.  But I don’t think foul language has a place in 
business or normal ordinary conversation.  It really puts me off in the movies. 
 

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 9:48 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: FB

I put all OT threads in a folder all to themselves. I look at that folder when 
I feel like I need/want some entertainment. F-bombs and other atrocities do not 
bother me. That stopped being an issue for me back when I was in college.



bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>On 1/8/2021 7:46 AM, Colin Stanners wrote:

  One good thing is that AFMUG's main purpose/topic is understood by everyone. 
I don't filter out all OT posts as some relatively-WISP/FISP-unrelated 
technical topics are useful. 

  But most political threads, as others have said, don't result in much useful 
change or new information in the end. Everyone's opinions are already pretty 
solidified. Instead of creating many new mailing list filters or categories, I 
think it'd be better avoided altogether once conversations start or become too 
political.



  On Fri, Jan 8, 2021, 9:30 AM Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote:

    Many times I want to post about something that is peripherally related to 
the industry. However, it may not be direct; Starlink news might be one of 
those. That is safely OT, and if someone thinks it isn't, then fine. No harm, 
no foul.

    However, I also know personally many of the people on this list, and it is 
helpful to me to hear what they have to say. Sometimes that dips into politics. 
I don't want to lose those friends.


    Putting in filters for off topic items should be a no brainer for each and 
every individual on this list. Perhaps a different tag for such topics? Maybe 
WOT (Way Off Topic), or NSFW, or POL as a prefix? Is that like having your cake 
and eating it too?



bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>On 1/8/2021 7:22 AM, D. Bernardi wrote:



      My .02, as mostly a lurker...

      A agree 100% with this statement. Some political views seem to be OK.

      For an RF rookie, this list has some invaluable technical content for me 
even though after a few responses threads can go on a tangent.  Signal to noise 
can be rather low at times but I still find it valuable overall.

      Tagging the subject with OT should be a managable way to deal with 
non-technical content. 



      At 02:14 PM 1/7/2021, you wrote:

        Chuck,

        I know it is your list and your rules, but you can't say crap like "The 
DC crap today does not hold a candle in magnitude to the Portland and Seattle 
crap largely done by the other side.  Give and take."  and not expect it to 
start a political argument.  I think you are abundantly and dangerously wrong 
about that but I'm (mostly) holding my tongue.  We can't have a list where one 
sided inflammatory BS like that is allowed but countering it is not.   We 
either allow political discussions, which I'm fine with, or we make a no 
politics rule.  The latter seems to be the best option as there are too many 
brilliant minds who we will lose if we keep it up.  

        On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 4:37 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> 
wrote:

          Sorry.  I don’t want to go back to the days of lent, but we have 
to remain civil to do so.  

          Â 

          The DC crap today does not hold a candle in magnitude to the Portland 
and Seattle crap largely done by the other side.  Give and take.

          Â 

          Folks wanna blow off steam.  It will be history tomorrow.  

          Â 

          No need to pollute our list here with that energy, from either side. 
 

          Â 

          From: Steve Jones 

          Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2021 3:32 PM

          To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: FB

          Â 

          youre no fun dad 

          Â 

          Lent?

          Â 

          On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 4:31 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> 
wrote:

            Kill thread.  We had been well behaved but nobody wants to see a 
bunch of F words in a subject line.  There have been complaints.  

            Â 

            From: Mathew Howard 

            Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2021 3:23 PM

            To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

            Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Fucking Bullshit

            Â 

            That's the real problem. I've come to the conclusion that almost no 
so-called news having anything to do with politics is honest or reliable, no 
matter which side it comes from. Almost all of it is slanted (if not outright 
dishonest) to either fit their own view or manipulate their consumers into 
supporting a particular agenda. Unfortunately, there seems to be very little 
that can be done to fix it.

            Â 

            On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 4:17 PM Craig House 
<[email protected]> wrote:

              " a nugget of truth with a layer of bullshit on top"Â  Is exactly 
how I take every bit of news from every outlet on every station.   It is even 
more the case when the source is a politician or anyone with a political 
agenda.  This includes most of the people on this list.   Very few on either 
side can really provide an objective argument on politics today.  I'd include 
myself in that group therefore I tend to just delete or not reply to these 
group messages because it only furthers the divide.   I honestly dont see any 
long term solution to the divide we have today.   Mainstream media isn't 
going to help.  Congress isn't going to help and Trump isn't going to help.  
Neither is anyone's opinion on this list 

              Â 

              Â 

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              From: "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]>

              To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]>

              Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2021 4:09:22 PM

              Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Fucking Bullshit

              Â 


              Look at the evidence closely and in each case you'll find a 
nugget of truth with a layer of bullshit on top.  That so many people are so 
thoroughly fooled by it is the most distressing part.  Look closer.  Stop 
being a fool.


              The "coup" is when the loser thinks he can win by pretending hard 
enough.


              Â 

              On 1/6/2021 5:05 PM, justsumname wrote:

                an election that is not conducted according to law is not an 
election.   it's a coup. 

                Worse... if the 'election' is not transparent, verifiable, and 
treats every voter the same, it's not an "election".

                Worse ... if poll watchers are bullied and physically 
threatened... that is intolerable. 

                Â 

                hereistheevidence.com   --- in case you dare open your mind 
to truth

                Â 

                Patton was correct, and so was that McCarthy guy, who was 
probably a commie plant because he did a great job discrediting 'his' message.

                Â 

                All that is left is communism or war.   That was the plan all 
along and only 'crazy' people  -- and people who escaped communist societies 
to come warn us -- saw it or believed in it.

                Â 

                I'll sign off with this, because this is probably The End:

                Â 

                “In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion 
that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not 
to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality 
the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told 
the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies 
themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to 
obvious lies is...in some small way to become evil oneself. One's standing to 
resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated 
liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has 
the same effect and is intended to.†~ Theodore Dalrymple

                Â 

                You arrogant asses, you've killed us!

                --

                Â 

                Â 

                On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 4:30 PM Steve Jones 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                  go drink some tecate, youre losing your mind

                  Â 

                  On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 3:26 PM Jaime Solorza 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                    Did you just hear his tweeter video bullshit? Fuck Trump... 
Kruchev predicted it... Trump enabled it. 

                    Â 

                    Go ahead and get off this list

                    Fuck Trump and his Trumpicans...

                    This is an Insurrection..Rudy called for trial by combat, 
Trump said it was going to be wild ...

                    So fuck them to hell.

                    Â 

                    On Wed, Jan 6, 2021, 2:11 PM Steve Jones 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                      IKR, slides biden is demanding potus go on national TV to 
quell it, unlike during the biden obama administration when he didnt demand the 
same. god this is funny. sad they havent shot more of these mopes today and 
historically

                      Â 

                      On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 2:50 PM Jaime Solorza 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                        WTF...third world country tactics... 

                        Insurrection...

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