Re: [AFMUG] OT: FBI just don’t see a need for that stuff here. Too polarizing and to easy to offend folks. Just like vax/anti vax conversation. Some folks are very passionate about that too. Ditto religion. No need here. Go on other forums.
(Except when you are talking to Steve. In that case you can say anything you want...) We can talk trash to each other all day when it is just good sport, but when you touch on real subjects feelings can get permanently damaged. We need each other as technical resources. And when you really need help you don’t want some guy that actually knows the exact answer holding back because he deems you to be an a$$hole due to some political position you had proffered in the past. From: Mark - Myakka Technologies Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 11:02 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: FB Bill, Maybe we need a different tag than OT for political stuff. I agree some of the OT stuff is entertaining and maybe informative. A separate political tag would allow people to filter it out and not lose the OT stuff. -- Best regards, Mark mailto:[email protected] Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.Myakka.com ------ Friday, January 8, 2021, 11:48:09 AM, you wrote: I put all OT threads in a folder all to themselves. I look at that folder when I feel like I need/want some entertainment. F-bombs and other atrocities do not bother me. That stopped being an issue for me back when I was in college. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 1/8/2021 7:46 AM, Colin Stanners wrote: One good thing is that AFMUG's main purpose/topic is understood by everyone. I don't filter out all OT posts as some relatively-WISP/FISP-unrelated technical topics are useful. But most political threads, as others have said, don't result in much useful change or new information in the end. Everyone's opinions are already pretty solidified. Instead of creating many new mailing list filters or categories, I think it'd be better avoided altogether once conversations start or become too political. On Fri, Jan 8, 2021, 9:30 AM Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote: Many times I want to post about something that is peripherally related to the industry. However, it may not be direct; Starlink news might be one of those. That is safely OT, and if someone thinks it isn't, then fine. No harm, no foul. However, I also know personally many of the people on this list, and it is helpful to me to hear what they have to say. Sometimes that dips into politics. I don't want to lose those friends. Putting in filters for off topic items should be a no brainer for each and every individual on this list. Perhaps a different tag for such topics? Maybe WOT (Way Off Topic), or NSFW, or POL as a prefix? Is that like having your cake and eating it too? bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 1/8/2021 7:22 AM, D. Bernardi wrote: My .02, as mostly a lurker... A agree 100% with this statement. Some political views seem to be OK. For an RF rookie, this list has some invaluable technical content for me even though after a few responses threads can go on a tangent. Signal to noise can be rather low at times but I still find it valuable overall. Tagging the subject with OT should be a managable way to deal with non-technical content. At 02:14 PM 1/7/2021, you wrote: Chuck, I know it is your list and your rules, but you can't say crap like "The DC crap today does not hold a candle in magnitude to the Portland and Seattle crap largely done by the other side. Give and take."  and not expect it to start a political argument. I think you are abundantly and dangerously wrong about that but I'm (mostly) holding my tongue. We can't have a list where one sided inflammatory BS like that is allowed but countering it is not.  We either allow political discussions, which I'm fine with, or we make a no politics rule. The latter seems to be the best option as there are too many brilliant minds who we will lose if we keep it up.  On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 4:37 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote: Sorry. I don’t want to go back to the days of lent, but we have to remain civil to do so.  The DC crap today does not hold a candle in magnitude to the Portland and Seattle crap largely done by the other side. Give and take.  Folks wanna blow off steam. It will be history tomorrow.  No need to pollute our list here with that energy, from either side.  From: Steve Jones Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2021 3:32 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: FB  youre no fun dad  Lent?  On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 4:31 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote: Kill thread. We had been well behaved but nobody wants to see a bunch of F words in a subject line. There have been complaints.  From: Mathew Howard Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2021 3:23 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Fucking Bullshit  That's the real problem. I've come to the conclusion that almost no so-called news having anything to do with politics is honest or reliable, no matter which side it comes from. Almost all of it is slanted (if not outright dishonest) to either fit their own view or manipulate their consumers into supporting a particular agenda. Unfortunately, there seems to be very little that can be done to fix it.  On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 4:17 PM Craig House <[email protected]> wrote: " a nugget of truth with a layer of bullshit on top" Is exactly how I take every bit of news from every outlet on every station.  It is even more the case when the source is a politician or anyone with a political agenda. This includes most of the people on this list.  Very few on either side can really provide an objective argument on politics today. I'd include myself in that group therefore I tend to just delete or not reply to these group messages because it only furthers the divide.  I honestly dont see any long term solution to the divide we have today.  Mainstream media isn't going to help. Congress isn't going to help and Trump isn't going to help. Neither is anyone's opinion on this list   -------------------------------------------------- From: "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2021 4:09:22 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Fucking Bullshit  Look at the evidence closely and in each case you'll find a nugget of truth with a layer of bullshit on top. That so many people are so thoroughly fooled by it is the most distressing part. Look closer. Stop being a fool. The "coup" is when the loser thinks he can win by pretending hard enough.  On 1/6/2021 5:05 PM, justsumname wrote: an election that is not conducted according to law is not an election.  it's a coup. Worse... if the 'election' is not transparent, verifiable, and treats every voter the same, it's not an "election". Worse ... if poll watchers are bullied and physically threatened... that is intolerable.  hereistheevidence.com  --- in case you dare open your mind to truth  Patton was correct, and so was that McCarthy guy, who was probably a commie plant because he did a great job discrediting 'his' message.  All that is left is communism or war.  That was the plan all along and only 'crazy' people -- and people who escaped communist societies to come warn us -- saw it or believed in it.  I'll sign off with this, because this is probably The End:  “In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is...in some small way to become evil oneself. One's standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.†~ Theodore Dalrymple  You arrogant asses, you've killed us! --   On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 4:30 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]> wrote: go drink some tecate, youre losing your mind  On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 3:26 PM Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> wrote: Did you just hear his tweeter video bullshit? Fuck Trump... Kruchev predicted it... Trump enabled it.  Go ahead and get off this list Fuck Trump and his Trumpicans... This is an Insurrection..Rudy called for trial by combat, Trump said it was going to be wild ... So fuck them to hell.  On Wed, Jan 6, 2021, 2:11 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]> wrote: IKR, slides biden is demanding potus go on national TV to quell it, unlike during the biden obama administration when he didnt demand the same. god this is funny. sad they havent shot more of these mopes today and historically  On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 2:50 PM Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> wrote: WTF...third world country tactics... 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