While I haven't seen that myself, it sure sounds like you're comparing the
hardware reliability of a $50 hex versus a $10,000 Juniper or Cisco.
Remember this started with a need for 1-2 gig of traffic and fear of using
Mikrotik for that job.

Only time I've personally had issues with OSPF is on older versions or bad
RF links.

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On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 2:14 PM Cassidy B. Larson <[email protected]> wrote:

> Software updates for one.  We have hundreds of hex units out there. We
> push out security upgrades regularly. Often times one doesnt come up after
> the upgrade and will need to be swapped as it’s dead.
>
> OSPF on routeros is also where we’ve had plenty of issues.  We’ve just
> decided to pull OSPF all together on the leaf ones that have it configured
> so networks are more stable.
>
>
>
> On Jan 19, 2021, at 12:02 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Where have you seen it be not stable?
>
>
>
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> *From: *"Cassidy B. Larson" <[email protected]>
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 19, 2021 12:59:40 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] router programming
>
> It’s like playing Jenga. It’s stable until you start making changes. You
> keep running the risk of it toppling over after every change, or it could
> continue to be stable until the next change :)
>
> On Jan 19, 2021, at 11:56, Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> 
> Not a binary thing.  Less stable than others perhaps.
>
> *From:* Ryan Ray
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 19, 2021 11:20 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] router programming
>
> Guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 9:48 AM Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> The route filters is one.
>>
>> There certainly are others, but I've had the same experiences with brand
>> new iron with support contracts. Shit happens.
>>
>>
>> Saying the platform isn't stable is disingenuous when there are many
>> people using it successfully in a variety of environments.
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From: *"Ryan Ray" <[email protected]>
>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]>
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 19, 2021 11:44:33 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] router programming
>>
>> I think you're being disingenuous if you're saying that you have never
>> run into an error or bug on Mikrotik where the only fix is a reboot or to
>> shut services on or off or bring an interface down then up.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 9:36 AM Ryan Ray <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> That's cool, I'm happy for you. In our experience Mikrotik isn't stable
>>> on the Long Term branches.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 8:34 AM Adair Winter <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yet some of us run hundreds of tik routers and 16 plus gb of traffic
>>>> all day erry day.
>>>> It's about know how to make the tools work.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jan 18, 2021, 3:04 PM Ryan Ray <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Cause it's not a stable platform.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 12:22 PM Mike Hammett <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Why would you be surprised when Mikrotik worked?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
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>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>> *From: *"Dev" <[email protected]>
>>>>>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]>
>>>>>> *Sent: *Monday, January 18, 2021 2:20:23 PM
>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] router programming
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Even used Juniper gear will lead to far less sleepless nights than
>>>>>> MT, a lot easier to find experts too. And they’re just…less Mikrotiky.
>>>>>> People are surprised when Mikrotik works, people are surprised when 
>>>>>> Juniper
>>>>>> doesn’t, that’s the difference.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2021, at 8:24 AM, Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I use it for my FTTH delivery system.  GPON.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Josh Baird
>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 18, 2021 9:19 AM
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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