I had that on an old version.  I forget how far back.  It's resolved for
the last couple of years.

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On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 10:22 AM Cassidy B. Larson <[email protected]> wrote:

> Our reoccurring issue was the mikrotik getting confused at times about
> which connected networks to include in link state updates on config
> changes. Restarting the OSPF process always fixed it.
>
>
> On Jan 20, 2021, at 07:58, Dennis Burgess <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> 
>
> OSPF issues are caused by the users 99% of the time.  Incorrect
> configurations, or improper configurations.  Just cause it works, does not
> mean it’s a good or correct config.  It is only good till it breaks due to
> your config.   Just stating.
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> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of * Mike Hammett
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 19, 2021 2:44 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] router programming
>
>
>
> *nods* I don't think I've ever had an OSPF reliability issue.
>
>
>
> I brought up a few examples of 1072 reliability issues from this thread in
> another group of Mikrotik-smart people and the consensus was that none of
> them had seen a 1072 reliability issue that wasn't the cause of someone
> using it incorrectly.
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> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 19, 2021 2:20:00 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] router programming
>
> While I haven't seen that myself, it sure sounds like you're comparing the
> hardware reliability of a $50 hex versus a $10,000 Juniper or Cisco.
> Remember this started with a need for 1-2 gig of traffic and fear of using
> Mikrotik for that job.
>
>
>
> Only time I've personally had issues with OSPF is on older versions or bad
> RF links.
>
>
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> Josh Luthman
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>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 2:14 PM Cassidy B. Larson <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Software updates for one.  We have hundreds of hex units out there. We
> push out security upgrades regularly. Often times one doesnt come up after
> the upgrade and will need to be swapped as it’s dead.
>
>
>
> OSPF on routeros is also where we’ve had plenty of issues.  We’ve just
> decided to pull OSPF all together on the leaf ones that have it configured
> so networks are more stable.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 19, 2021, at 12:02 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Where have you seen it be not stable?
>
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> *From: *"Cassidy B. Larson" <[email protected]>
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 19, 2021 12:59:40 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] router programming
>
> It’s like playing Jenga. It’s stable until you start making changes. You
> keep running the risk of it toppling over after every change, or it could
> continue to be stable until the next change :)
>
>
>
> On Jan 19, 2021, at 11:56, Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Not a binary thing.  Less stable than others perhaps.
>
>
>
> *From:* Ryan Ray
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 19, 2021 11:20 AM
>
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] router programming
>
>
>
> Guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 9:48 AM Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> The route filters is one.
>
>
>
> There certainly are others, but I've had the same experiences with brand
> new iron with support contracts. Shit happens.
>
>
>
>
>
> Saying the platform isn't stable is disingenuous when there are many
> people using it successfully in a variety of environments.
>
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> *From: *"Ryan Ray" <[email protected]>
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 19, 2021 11:44:33 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] router programming
>
> I think you're being disingenuous if you're saying that you have never run
> into an error or bug on Mikrotik where the only fix is a reboot or to shut
> services on or off or bring an interface down then up.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 9:36 AM Ryan Ray <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> That's cool, I'm happy for you. In our experience Mikrotik isn't stable on
> the Long Term branches.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 8:34 AM Adair Winter <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Yet some of us run hundreds of tik routers and 16 plus gb of traffic all
> day erry day.
>
> It's about know how to make the tools work.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 18, 2021, 3:04 PM Ryan Ray <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Cause it's not a stable platform.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 12:22 PM Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Why would you be surprised when Mikrotik worked?
>
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> *From: *"Dev" <[email protected]>
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]>
> *Sent: *Monday, January 18, 2021 2:20:23 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] router programming
>
> Even used Juniper gear will lead to far less sleepless nights than MT, a
> lot easier to find experts too. And they’re just…less Mikrotiky. People are
> surprised when Mikrotik works, people are surprised when Juniper doesn’t,
> that’s the difference.
>
>
>
> On Jan 18, 2021, at 8:24 AM, Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> I use it for my FTTH delivery system.  GPON.
>
>
>
> *From:* Josh Baird
>
> *Sent:* Monday, January 18, 2021 9:19 AM
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