There's that. but there is also the fact that MT costs so much less that
you can give it a rip for your situation & have a functioning system
without fear of blowing the budget. If it doesn't work for you, it is a
pretty cheap lesson. In fact, relative to Juniper, it is almost a
rounding error.
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On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 3:09 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have never regretted buying one of the best of something in a category.
> For example, I went cheap during the early days on imported oscilloscopes.
> Finally about 30 years ago I broke down and bought a brand new HP scope.
> Still works fine, use it all the time. My favorite scope. My wife swears
> by kuru shoes. Expensive but her feet don’t hurt. High quality studded
> snow tires. Kennedy tool chests. Kurt vises for CNC mills etc etc.
>
> So, in 5 years or 10 years will I be happy I went with Juniper over MT?
> Will be unhappy I went with MT vs Juniper?
> That is the decision I am trying to make.
>
> *From:* Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 19, 2021 1:20 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] router programming
>
> While I haven't seen that myself, it sure sounds like you're comparing the
> hardware reliability of a $50 hex versus a $10,000 Juniper or Cisco.
> Remember this started with a need for 1-2 gig of traffic and fear of using
> Mikrotik for that job.
>
> Only time I've personally had issues with OSPF is on older versions or bad
> RF links.
>
> Josh Luthman
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>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 2:14 PM Cassidy B. Larson <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Software updates for one. We have hundreds of hex units out there. We
>> push out security upgrades regularly. Often times one doesnt come up after
>> the upgrade and will need to be swapped as it’s dead.
>>
>> OSPF on routeros is also where we’ve had plenty of issues. We’ve just
>> decided to pull OSPF all together on the leaf ones that have it configured
>> so networks are more stable.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 19, 2021, at 12:02 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Where have you seen it be not stable?
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>
>>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From: *"Cassidy B. Larson" <[email protected]>
>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]>
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 19, 2021 12:59:40 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] router programming
>>
>> It’s like playing Jenga. It’s stable until you start making changes. You
>> keep running the risk of it toppling over after every change, or it could
>> continue to be stable until the next change :)
>>
>> On Jan 19, 2021, at 11:56, Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Not a binary thing. Less stable than others perhaps.
>>
>> *From:* Ryan Ray
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 19, 2021 11:20 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] router programming
>>
>> Guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 9:48 AM Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> The route filters is one.
>>>
>>> There certainly are others, but I've had the same experiences with brand
>>> new iron with support contracts. Shit happens.
>>>
>>>
>>> Saying the platform isn't stable is disingenuous when there are many
>>> people using it successfully in a variety of environments.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>
>>>
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From: *"Ryan Ray" <[email protected]>
>>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]>
>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 19, 2021 11:44:33 AM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] router programming
>>>
>>> I think you're being disingenuous if you're saying that you have never
>>> run into an error or bug on Mikrotik where the only fix is a reboot or to
>>> shut services on or off or bring an interface down then up.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 9:36 AM Ryan Ray <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> That's cool, I'm happy for you. In our experience Mikrotik isn't stable
>>>> on the Long Term branches.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 8:34 AM Adair Winter <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yet some of us run hundreds of tik routers and 16 plus gb of traffic
>>>>> all day erry day.
>>>>> It's about know how to make the tools work.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jan 18, 2021, 3:04 PM Ryan Ray <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Cause it's not a stable platform.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 12:22 PM Mike Hammett <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why would you be surprised when Mikrotik worked?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>> *From: *"Dev" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> *Sent: *Monday, January 18, 2021 2:20:23 PM
>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] router programming
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Even used Juniper gear will lead to far less sleepless nights than
>>>>>>> MT, a lot easier to find experts too. And they’re just…less Mikrotiky.
>>>>>>> People are surprised when Mikrotik works, people are surprised when
>>>>>>> Juniper
>>>>>>> doesn’t, that’s the difference.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2021, at 8:24 AM, Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I use it for my FTTH delivery system. GPON.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* Josh Baird
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 18, 2021 9:19 AM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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