Why do you guys hate to factor authentication I turn it on everywhere I can. Is 
it really that hard to get a text message and enter a six or eight digit number 
to know that your account is secure.

Especially with the ability of most websites to remember the device you’re 
logging in from it’s usually a once in a great while thing.

> On Feb 25, 2021, at 8:45 AM, Steve Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> I do hate 2fa as well, I had an issue with a credit card payment to my cell 
> carrier last week, so my service was shut off. So I go to log into my credit 
> card portal, guess where the auth text got sent. But the cumbersome nature of 
> it did force me to rethink my refusal to put alternate forms of payment on 
> file and to actually open credit card statements. 
> Fyi, percent cashback only pays off of you're cards are set to pay the 
> balance automatically and not the default of minimum monthly payment. That 
> default should be illegal too
> 
>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2021, 7:21 AM Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I only use 2FA when required. It's a pain in the butt.
>> 
>> I do use a password manager with randomly generated passwords.
>> 
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>> Midwest Internet Exchange
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>> The Brothers WISP
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>> 
>> From: "Steve Jones" <[email protected]>
>> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2021 7:38:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FB account deleted
>> 
>> This got me thinking. What do you think the public's tolerance would be for 
>> full throated protection if it came at the cost of inconvenience, like you 
>> have to verify your identity to reset a password, but that also means a 
>> malicious actor would have to do the same. If one of the steps required 
>> human interaction, like going to a bank, or the dmv (never the dmv) or any 
>> authorized identity verification location. Almost every jail and police 
>> department in every podunk town has digital fingerprinting now. Most larger 
>> towns have businesses whose sole purpose is fingerprinting people. There are 
>> tons of ways to verify identity in person on top of the digital mechanisms 
>> attached to Nexus. 
>> 
>> Would the inconvenience force people to become more proactive to avoid the 
>> inconvenience, like actually use a legitimate password manager and 2FA? 
>> Would they maybe not click every link they see?
>> 
>> I think its obvious that adoption, if voluntary  would be virtually nil. But 
>> what if the big 3 apple, Google and facebook implemented it? Noting that 
>> those three also are the verification medium for a large percentage of 
>> everything else.
>> 
>> It's a matter of time until identity theft is a multitrillion dollar 
>> industry, the vast majority is rooted in convenience over security. I can 
>> see even republicans backing funding for this type of thing considering the 
>> cost is going to be much less than the recovery costs of id theft
>> 
>> People will drive 10 miles to get a wifi signal for facebook, it's really 
>> not outside the realm of reason for this to be a feasible process.
>> 
>> Can this idea be patented?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Wed, Feb 24, 2021, 1:13 PM Seth Mattinen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On 2/24/21 06:17, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote:
>>> > Well she got back in with help from my son.  Still not sure what the 
>>> > deal was.  Guess I'll have to start looking at 1Password or LastPassword.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Facebook actually supports decent 2FA options like TOTP and FIDO (i.e. 
>>> yubikey) for 2FA. I'd recommend enabling one of those.
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