maybe theyre right and we are the crazies, you ever think of that huh?

On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 12:29 PM Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:

> Sovereign was a real word before crazies used it
> On 2/25/2021 1:26 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> will this make u sovereign citizen? Do we get access to our identity bank
> account? does it mean we are no longer driving, we are travelling and road
> laws no longer apply? does this make the president come in on the 4th? they
> really should use a term other than sovereign
>
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 11:58 AM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> https://www.windley.com/archives/2018/09/multi-source_and_self-sovereign_identity.shtml
>>
>> *From:* Chuck McCown via AF
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 25, 2021 10:54 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FB account deleted
>>
>> If widely adopted this https://sovrin.org/  can solve everything.  I
>> know the founder.
>>
>> *From:* Jan-GAMs
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 25, 2021 10:25 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FB account deleted
>>
>>
>> I don't have anything against 2fa, I just think giving it to a business
>> that is involved with selling your personal data is moronic.  They have no
>> excusable reason even knowing your real name, why you giving them info
>> directly traceable to specifically you?
>> On 2/25/21 6:57 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>>
>> Why do you guys hate to factor authentication I turn it on everywhere I
>> can. Is it really that hard to get a text message and enter a six or eight
>> digit number to know that your account is secure.
>>
>> Especially with the ability of most websites to remember the device
>> you’re logging in from it’s usually a once in a great while thing.
>>
>> On Feb 25, 2021, at 8:45 AM, Steve Jones mailto:[email protected]
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> I do hate 2fa as well, I had an issue with a credit card payment to my
>> cell carrier last week, so my service was shut off. So I go to log into my
>> credit card portal, guess where the auth text got sent. But the cumbersome
>> nature of it did force me to rethink my refusal to put alternate forms of
>> payment on file and to actually open credit card statements.
>> Fyi, percent cashback only pays off of you're cards are set to pay the
>> balance automatically and not the default of minimum monthly payment. That
>> default should be illegal too
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2021, 7:21 AM Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I only use 2FA when required. It's a pain in the butt.
>>>
>>> I do use a password manager with randomly generated passwords.
>>>
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>>> *From: *"Steve Jones" <[email protected]>
>>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]>
>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, February 24, 2021 7:38:11 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] FB account deleted
>>>
>>> This got me thinking. What do you think the public's tolerance would be
>>> for full throated protection if it came at the cost of inconvenience, like
>>> you have to verify your identity to reset a password, but that also means a
>>> malicious actor would have to do the same. If one of the steps required
>>> human interaction, like going to a bank, or the dmv (never the dmv) or any
>>> authorized identity verification location. Almost every jail and police
>>> department in every podunk town has digital fingerprinting now. Most larger
>>> towns have businesses whose sole purpose is fingerprinting people. There
>>> are tons of ways to verify identity in person on top of the digital
>>> mechanisms attached to Nexus.
>>>
>>> Would the inconvenience force people to become more proactive to avoid
>>> the inconvenience, like actually use a legitimate password manager and 2FA?
>>> Would they maybe not click every link they see?
>>>
>>> I think its obvious that adoption, if voluntary  would be virtually nil.
>>> But what if the big 3 apple, Google and facebook implemented it? Noting
>>> that those three also are the verification medium for a large percentage of
>>> everything else.
>>>
>>> It's a matter of time until identity theft is a multitrillion dollar
>>> industry, the vast majority is rooted in convenience over security. I can
>>> see even republicans backing funding for this type of thing considering the
>>> cost is going to be much less than the recovery costs of id theft
>>>
>>> People will drive 10 miles to get a wifi signal for facebook, it's
>>> really not outside the realm of reason for this to be a feasible process.
>>>
>>> Can this idea be patented?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 24, 2021, 1:13 PM Seth Mattinen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2/24/21 06:17, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote:
>>>> > Well she got back in with help from my son.  Still not sure what the
>>>> > deal was.  Guess I'll have to start looking at 1Password or
>>>> LastPassword.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Facebook actually supports decent 2FA options like TOTP and FIDO (i.e.
>>>> yubikey) for 2FA. I'd recommend enabling one of those.
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