Sovereign was a real word before crazies used it

On 2/25/2021 1:26 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
will this make u sovereign citizen? Do we get access to our identity bank account? does it mean we are no longer driving, we are travelling and road laws no longer apply? does this make the president come in on the 4th? they really should use a term other than sovereign

On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 11:58 AM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    
https://www.windley.com/archives/2018/09/multi-source_and_self-sovereign_identity.shtml
    
<https://www.windley.com/archives/2018/09/multi-source_and_self-sovereign_identity.shtml>
    *From:* Chuck McCown via AF
    *Sent:* Thursday, February 25, 2021 10:54 AM
    *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
    *Cc:* Chuck McCown
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FB account deleted
    If widely adopted this https://sovrin.org/ <https://sovrin.org/>
    can solve everything.  I know the founder.
    *From:* Jan-GAMs
    *Sent:* Thursday, February 25, 2021 10:25 AM
    *To:* [email protected]
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FB account deleted

    I don't have anything against 2fa, I just think giving it to a
    business that is involved with selling your personal data is
    moronic. They have no excusable reason even knowing your real
    name, why you giving them info directly traceable to specifically you?

    On 2/25/21 6:57 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
    Why do you guys hate to factor authentication I turn it on
    everywhere I can. Is it really that hard to get a text message
    and enter a six or eight digit number to know that your account
    is secure.
    Especially with the ability of most websites to remember the
    device you’re logging in from it’s usually a once in a great
    while thing.

    On Feb 25, 2021, at 8:45 AM, Steve Jones
    mailto:[email protected] wrote:

    
    I do hate 2fa as well, I had an issue with a credit card payment
    to my cell carrier last week, so my service was shut off. So I
    go to log into my credit card portal, guess where the auth text
    got sent. But the cumbersome nature of it did force me to
    rethink my refusal to put alternate forms of payment on file and
    to actually open credit card statements.
    Fyi, percent cashback only pays off of you're cards are set to
    pay the balance automatically and not the default of minimum
    monthly payment. That default should be illegal too
    On Thu, Feb 25, 2021, 7:21 AM Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:

        I only use 2FA when required. It's a pain in the butt.
        I do use a password manager with randomly generated passwords.



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        *From: *"Steve Jones" <[email protected]>
        *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]>
        *Sent: *Wednesday, February 24, 2021 7:38:11 PM
        *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] FB account deleted

        This got me thinking. What do you think the public's
        tolerance would be for full throated protection if it came
        at the cost of inconvenience, like you have to verify your
        identity to reset a password, but that also means a
        malicious actor would have to do the same. If one of the
        steps required human interaction, like going to a bank, or
        the dmv (never the dmv) or any authorized identity
        verification location. Almost every jail and police
        department in every podunk town has digital fingerprinting
        now. Most larger towns have businesses whose sole purpose is
        fingerprinting people. There are tons of ways to verify
        identity in person on top of the digital mechanisms attached
        to Nexus.
        Would the inconvenience force people to become more
        proactive to avoid the inconvenience, like actually use a
        legitimate password manager and 2FA? Would they maybe not
        click every link they see?
        I think its obvious that adoption, if voluntary  would be
        virtually nil. But what if the big 3 apple, Google and
        facebook implemented it? Noting that those three also are
        the verification medium for a large percentage of everything
        else.
        It's a matter of time until identity theft is a
        multitrillion dollar industry, the vast majority is rooted
        in convenience over security. I can see even republicans
        backing funding for this type of thing considering the cost
        is going to be much less than the recovery costs of id theft
        People will drive 10 miles to get a wifi signal for
        facebook, it's really not outside the realm of reason for
        this to be a feasible process.
        Can this idea be patented?
        On Wed, Feb 24, 2021, 1:13 PM Seth Mattinen
        <[email protected]> wrote:

            On 2/24/21 06:17, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote:
            > Well she got back in with help from my son. Still not
            sure what the
            > deal was.  Guess I'll have to start looking at
            1Password or LastPassword.


            Facebook actually supports decent 2FA options like TOTP
            and FIDO (i.e.
            yubikey) for 2FA. I'd recommend enabling one of those.

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