And what happens to your data and ID when sovrin gets hacked?  Is sovrin going to insure your account and pay you for your loss? Clean-up any identity fraud?  So far, all I see is a larger hack-target!

On 2/25/21 9:54 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
If widely adopted this https://sovrin.org/ <https://sovrin.org/> can solve everything.  I know the founder.
*From:* Jan-GAMs
*Sent:* Thursday, February 25, 2021 10:25 AM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FB account deleted

I don't have anything against 2fa, I just think giving it to a business that is involved with selling your personal data is moronic.  They have no excusable reason even knowing your real name, why you giving them info directly traceable to specifically you?

On 2/25/21 6:57 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
Why do you guys hate to factor authentication I turn it on everywhere I can. Is it really that hard to get a text message and enter a six or eight digit number to know that your account is secure. Especially with the ability of most websites to remember the device you’re logging in from it’s usually a once in a great while thing.

On Feb 25, 2021, at 8:45 AM, Steve Jones mailto:[email protected] wrote:


I do hate 2fa as well, I had an issue with a credit card payment to my cell carrier last week, so my service was shut off. So I go to log into my credit card portal, guess where the auth text got sent. But the cumbersome nature of it did force me to rethink my refusal to put alternate forms of payment on file and to actually open credit card statements. Fyi, percent cashback only pays off of you're cards are set to pay the balance automatically and not the default of minimum monthly payment. That default should be illegal too
On Thu, Feb 25, 2021, 7:21 AM Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:

    I only use 2FA when required. It's a pain in the butt.
    I do use a password manager with randomly generated passwords.



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    *From: *"Steve Jones" <[email protected]>
    *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]>
    *Sent: *Wednesday, February 24, 2021 7:38:11 PM
    *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] FB account deleted

    This got me thinking. What do you think the public's tolerance
    would be for full throated protection if it came at the cost of
    inconvenience, like you have to verify your identity to reset a
    password, but that also means a malicious actor would have to do
    the same. If one of the steps required human interaction, like
    going to a bank, or the dmv (never the dmv) or any authorized
    identity verification location. Almost every jail and police
    department in every podunk town has digital fingerprinting now.
    Most larger towns have businesses whose sole purpose is
    fingerprinting people. There are tons of ways to verify identity
    in person on top of the digital mechanisms attached to Nexus.
    Would the inconvenience force people to become more proactive to
    avoid the inconvenience, like actually use a legitimate password
    manager and 2FA? Would they maybe not click every link they see?
    I think its obvious that adoption, if voluntary  would be
    virtually nil. But what if the big 3 apple, Google and facebook
    implemented it? Noting that those three also are the
    verification medium for a large percentage of everything else.
    It's a matter of time until identity theft is a multitrillion
    dollar industry, the vast majority is rooted in convenience over
    security. I can see even republicans backing funding for this
    type of thing considering the cost is going to be much less than
    the recovery costs of id theft
    People will drive 10 miles to get a wifi signal for facebook,
    it's really not outside the realm of reason for this to be a
    feasible process.
    Can this idea be patented?
    On Wed, Feb 24, 2021, 1:13 PM Seth Mattinen <[email protected]>
    wrote:

        On 2/24/21 06:17, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote:
        > Well she got back in with help from my son.  Still not
        sure what the
        > deal was.  Guess I'll have to start looking at 1Password
        or LastPassword.


        Facebook actually supports decent 2FA options like TOTP and
        FIDO (i.e.
        yubikey) for 2FA. I'd recommend enabling one of those.

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