Ahh, and like everything else if you dont allow, you dont get access

On Thu, Feb 25, 2021, 3:38 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:

> You and your block chain and ID are in control of who gets what.  It turns
> it around.  If you go to login somewhere, that somewhere asks you if it can
> have access.  It turns it totally around.  You decide who gets what info.
> Essentially everyone logs into you  instead of the other way around.  FB
> has to ask you if it can connect to your browser.  You have a policy
> dictating what it can see.  You are in total control.
>
> *From:* Jan-GAMs
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 25, 2021 1:53 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FB account deleted
>
>
> And what happens to your data and ID when sovrin gets hacked?  Is sovrin
> going to insure your account and pay you for your loss?  Clean-up any
> identity fraud?  So far, all I see is a larger hack-target!
> On 2/25/21 9:54 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>
> If widely adopted this https://sovrin.org/  can solve everything.  I know
> the founder.
>
> *From:* Jan-GAMs
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 25, 2021 10:25 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FB account deleted
>
>
> I don't have anything against 2fa, I just think giving it to a business
> that is involved with selling your personal data is moronic.  They have no
> excusable reason even knowing your real name, why you giving them info
> directly traceable to specifically you?
> On 2/25/21 6:57 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>
> Why do you guys hate to factor authentication I turn it on everywhere I
> can. Is it really that hard to get a text message and enter a six or eight
> digit number to know that your account is secure.
>
> Especially with the ability of most websites to remember the device you’re
> logging in from it’s usually a once in a great while thing.
>
> On Feb 25, 2021, at 8:45 AM, Steve Jones mailto:[email protected]
> wrote:
>
> 
> I do hate 2fa as well, I had an issue with a credit card payment to my
> cell carrier last week, so my service was shut off. So I go to log into my
> credit card portal, guess where the auth text got sent. But the cumbersome
> nature of it did force me to rethink my refusal to put alternate forms of
> payment on file and to actually open credit card statements.
> Fyi, percent cashback only pays off of you're cards are set to pay the
> balance automatically and not the default of minimum monthly payment. That
> default should be illegal too
>
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2021, 7:21 AM Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I only use 2FA when required. It's a pain in the butt.
>>
>> I do use a password manager with randomly generated passwords.
>>
>>
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>> *From: *"Steve Jones" <[email protected]>
>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]>
>> *Sent: *Wednesday, February 24, 2021 7:38:11 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] FB account deleted
>>
>> This got me thinking. What do you think the public's tolerance would be
>> for full throated protection if it came at the cost of inconvenience, like
>> you have to verify your identity to reset a password, but that also means a
>> malicious actor would have to do the same. If one of the steps required
>> human interaction, like going to a bank, or the dmv (never the dmv) or any
>> authorized identity verification location. Almost every jail and police
>> department in every podunk town has digital fingerprinting now. Most larger
>> towns have businesses whose sole purpose is fingerprinting people. There
>> are tons of ways to verify identity in person on top of the digital
>> mechanisms attached to Nexus.
>>
>> Would the inconvenience force people to become more proactive to avoid
>> the inconvenience, like actually use a legitimate password manager and 2FA?
>> Would they maybe not click every link they see?
>>
>> I think its obvious that adoption, if voluntary  would be virtually nil.
>> But what if the big 3 apple, Google and facebook implemented it? Noting
>> that those three also are the verification medium for a large percentage of
>> everything else.
>>
>> It's a matter of time until identity theft is a multitrillion dollar
>> industry, the vast majority is rooted in convenience over security. I can
>> see even republicans backing funding for this type of thing considering the
>> cost is going to be much less than the recovery costs of id theft
>>
>> People will drive 10 miles to get a wifi signal for facebook, it's really
>> not outside the realm of reason for this to be a feasible process.
>>
>> Can this idea be patented?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 24, 2021, 1:13 PM Seth Mattinen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/24/21 06:17, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote:
>>> > Well she got back in with help from my son.  Still not sure what the
>>> > deal was.  Guess I'll have to start looking at 1Password or
>>> LastPassword.
>>>
>>>
>>> Facebook actually supports decent 2FA options like TOTP and FIDO (i.e.
>>> yubikey) for 2FA. I'd recommend enabling one of those.
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