Marketing people will certainly tell you that putting up 12,000 wifi APs will 1.2gbps*12,000 capacity though...
I think Starlink is probably going to work very well for what it's supposed to do, but at this point, I don't think most people really understand what it is. There's too much hype around it that's giving people unrealistic expectations... kind of like 5G. On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 10:26 AM Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote: > Yeah but marketing people are dumb in every company. I don't > underestimate their engineers, but I do believe the people selling it will > be prone to overstating what it does. > > I think people keep assuming things like "20Gbps per satellite x 12,000 > satellites = eleventy skillion yottabits" > > Anybody who's ever installed WiFi ought to understand that an AP that can > theoretically do 1.2gbps doesn't actually do 1.2gbps, and putting 12,000 of > them in a building wouldn't let you multiply capacity * 12,000. > > IMO it will be better than existing satellite systems, but it will not be > a panacea, and fixed wireless will absolutely still be competitive with > it. ....and of course it won't replace cable or fiber. > On 3/4/2021 11:18 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > > As much as we all hope there are operational issues that will make it less > than perfect, it is made by some very smart people. People smart enough to > land a buck rogers rocket on its tail feathers. I would not underestimate > them. I am still hopeful that there are issues... > > *From:* Bill Prince > *Sent:* Thursday, March 4, 2021 9:15 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already > > > If the top is relatively slick, and it's almost always tilted, maybe they > just need to make a thin layer of water to get it to slide off? > > > > bp > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > On 3/4/2021 5:31 AM, Steven Kenney wrote: > > Found this interesting tidbit I didnt know about > > *Snow Melt Mode* > Deployed basic Snow Melt Mode, during which Starlink produces additional > heat to mitigate signal attenuation caused by snow build-up on the face of > the user terminal. > > > > [image: logo] <https://www.wavedirect.net/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ruralhighspeed> > <https://www.instagram.com/wave.direct/> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/wavedirect-telecommunication/> > <https://twitter.com/wavedirect1> > <https://www.youtube.com/user/WaveDirect> > *STEVEN KENNEY * > DIRECTOR OF GLOBAL CONNECTIVITY & CONTINUITY A: 158 Erie St. N | > Leamington ON > E: [email protected] | P: 519-737-9283 > W: www.wavedirect.net > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Matt Hoppes" mailto:[email protected] > *To: *"af" mailto:[email protected], "Steve Jones" > mailto:[email protected] > *Sent: *Thursday, March 4, 2021 8:03:14 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already > > He's trying to land a Methane filled blimp while ignited! We already > provided this was a bad idea with the Hindenburg. > > On 3/3/21 6:50 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > > what part of beta dont people understand? is it because general > > consumers are getting beta and dont actually know what beta is? this is > > the same reason we make people cut trees down now BEFORE we install. we > > used to just install and tell them to cut it. but too many > > people complained about exactly what we told them would happen happening. > > > > I have faith in starlink, I think in 5 years it will be a whole other > > landscape. Musk seems like one of those guys who thrives on detractors > > and proving people wrong. > > > > But regardless, beta is beta > > > > On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 5:15 PM Jaime Solorza <[email protected] > > mailto:[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Ha... > > > > On Wed, Mar 3, 2021, 3:42 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected] > > mailto:[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Tin cans and string will be better than Hughes. > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 3, 2021 3:20 PM > > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already > > From your mouth to God's ears Chuck on Covid-19... > > unfortunately it's going to take a step backwards in Texas.. > > I heard some ranchers near Big Bend want to switch from Hughes > > to Starlink ...my friend does IT work for several of them... > > curious to see how well it works. > > On Wed, Mar 3, 2021, 1:39 PM Chuck McCown via AF > > mailto:[email protected] wrote: > > > > I think that they are going to find more than enough > > customers in hard to serve locations that they will not > > encroach on the better served areas too much. I am always > > an optimist. BTW, Covid will be done in a month... > > *From:* Colin Stanners > > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 3, 2021 9:50 AM > > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already > > Starlink *BETA* . Maybe they're simulating load of a few > > hundred, or a thousand, customers on each bird to prepare > > for when it's actually busy. (based on the "20Gbps" capacity > > per sat) > > Considering the amount of effort and design that goes into > > such a massive and complex system, people should be thankful > > that it's working with a good-enough uptime right now. > > On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 10:47 AM Dev > mailto:[email protected] > > wrote: > > > > Already hearing from folks who have the service that > > they’re seeing dips below 15Mbps, and this at light > > loads with few customers, we’ll see how this scales. Or > > doesn’t. 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