I think the distributors are trying to help fix this brokenness in that I'm
now seeing restrictions on certain part quantities.

Like the electronics equivalent of you can only buy 1 package of toilet
paper a week.   That of course isn't helpful if you've got a large family
that uses 2 a week.   Or regular consumption of 4x the parts that the limit
is set at.



On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 10:30 PM Robert <[email protected]> wrote:

> So many vendors have had to go from JIT ordering to backlog ordering that
> the parts that were ordered in 100's or 1000's are now being ordered in the
> 10K's and 100K's or even 1MM's.. So the system is broken.  The fix isn't
> going to arrive until the market can rebalance.  Unfortunately this isn't
> like shifting production from office TP to residential...  Building FAB's
> is years..
>
> On 9/27/21 9:18 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> That's what concerns me. Companies like packetflux deliver topnotch gear
> at affordable prices. They stand behind their product.
>
> So forrest may bring in 10 units to verify, then order months or years
> worth of component. Somewhere up the chain though one of the components
> components gets a shortcut to meet demand.
>
> Something like the time chucks surge suppresors didnt get the flux washed
> off the ethernet pins (note, ever since that, whenever I plug in an rj45 I
> work it in and out 3 or 4 times,so the snafu created outward quality
> checks) chuck stood by it, I think changed a vendor or brought the process
> in house.
>
> But that didnt change the fact that there was end user failure that was
> not directly due to the manufacturers lack of due diligence. An upstream in
> the chain cut a corner.
>
> I'm dreading the consumer electronics hitting the market this holiday
> season. I forsee a ton of weird shit hitting support that boils down to
> supply chain component changes on the fly.
>
> On Mon, Sep 27, 2021, 10:19 PM Sean Heskett <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I'm sorry to hear this Forest.
>>
>> I wanted to send you some words of encouragement though.  Your products
>> and the solutions they provide are EXTREMELY valuable to not just my
>> business but our whole industry.  There is a slew of stuff your products
>> accomplish for us that would honestly take a fraken-monster to replicate.
>>
>> I know it's tough going and there's not really an end in sight with these
>> supply chain issues, not just for you but for America and the world.
>> Unfortunately we've off-shored most of our manufacturing and that won't
>> come back home quick.  With all the weird things we've had to deal with the
>> last couple years, I have to keep telling myself "This too shall pass".
>>
>> *But please please please keep doing what you are doing!!!!  You are a
>> true hero of the WISP world who makes products we all need!!!*
>>
>> Please let us know if there's any way we can help.
>>
>> *Sean Heskett*
>>
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>> On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 4:06 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm getting really tired of dealing with supply chain issues.   Like
>>> burnt out, don't want to do this anymore, I've had enough tired.
>>>
>>> Just the things I'm dealing with today:
>>>
>>> The last few days, all of my spare time has been related to reviewing
>>> options to replace a part which has become unobtainum.   Like as in,
>>> manufacturer has moved from a long lead time to 'don't bother asking'.
>>>  This seems to happen on a recurring basis now (with different parts) -
>>> versus pre-covid it was maybe once every year or two (since I'm careful to
>>> select parts to avoid this issue).   I've had one part I've had to switch
>>> vendors on like 6 times now.
>>>
>>> And it's not just parts, my enclosure manufacturer for the rackinjectors
>>> sent us this gem today:
>>>
>>> "We had the enclosures ready for pickup since last week, but our road is
>>> under maintenance and the whole street got ripped off. My forklift is not
>>> able to get off from our driveway to the road because the step is very
>>> steep. I heard the city will start paving tomorrow. Hopefully we can load
>>> the pallet by Wednesday."
>>>
>>> Can we please go back to the way it was in 2019 sometime soon?
>>>
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