It would be so “easy” to just add firearms with CGI I would think. Just have
them hold a 3D printed replica that is bright green and replace it with post
editing work.
From: Daniel White
Sent: Thursday, December 2, 2021 10:11 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Alec Baldwin
I'm nervous around anyone with a firearm because on principle I trust no one.
I trust no firearm is unloaded unless I maintain possession and cleared it
myself. Active Duty/former military is mostly an exception since you act
without respect there you can expect to have your face in the dirt pretty quick.
I get though that you can't expect actors to know all the firearms they handle.
The system they use is supposed to have multiple fail safes so that the actor
doesn't need to be a weapons expert. I think the system works considering how
few on set accidents have happened... and obviously procedure wasn't followed
here.
As I said, I think Alec is in some serious trouble as a producer... but I doubt
anything will happen criminally in regards to him pulling the trigger.
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Bill PrinceDecember 2, 2021 at 09:55
You and me both. When I'm in the presence of people who (I feel) are a bit
too cavalier with a firearm, I get very nervous, and my natural instinct is to
get the hell away from that person. I was taught to treat every firearm as if
it is loaded. My bolt action rifle, I keep the bolt stored separate from the
rifle. I don't put it in until I am ready to use it.
bp
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On 12/2/2021 7:46 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
Chuck McCown via AFDecember 2, 2021 at 08:46
One junk news article has another person on the set saying his finger was on
the trigger guard.
Whether single or double action, a revolver takes some force to fire.
I supposed if it was fully cocked and adjusted to have a hair trigger it is
possible to be extra easy to touch off.
I just cannot imagine someone handing me a firearm expecting me to wave it
around in the general direction of people and me not checking it first. I
would never trust someone’s word on that.
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Thursday, December 2, 2021 8:28 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Alec Baldwin
From where I'm sitting there had to be multiple screw ups. First is the
security of the weapons. Based on what I've read (and I don't know how much of
it is true), the weapons were on a table; they had been used for "target
practice" during breaks; the armorer had declared them to be "cold" (in my mind
that means there is nothing in the chambers; not blanks, not anything).
If it was a dress rehearsal, I would expect that there were multiple cameras
running. Digital film does not cost enough to matter, and it can be used to
determine if they're getting the shots they want.
bp
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On 12/2/2021 5:31 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
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Bill PrinceDecember 2, 2021 at 08:28
From where I'm sitting there had to be multiple screw ups. First is the
security of the weapons. Based on what I've read (and I don't know how much of
it is true), the weapons were on a table; they had been used for "target
practice" during breaks; the armorer had declared them to be "cold" (in my mind
that means there is nothing in the chambers; not blanks, not anything).
If it was a dress rehearsal, I would expect that there were multiple cameras
running. Digital film does not cost enough to matter, and it can be used to
determine if they're getting the shots they want.
bp
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On 12/2/2021 5:31 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Mike HammettDecember 2, 2021 at 06:31
Something a lot of people are leaving out is that movie set gun safety is
likely quite different than real life gun safety. Likely, the same rules don't
apply in both scenarios.
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From: "Steve Jones" mailto:[email protected]
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:[email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, December 1, 2021 8:55:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Alec Baldwin
Amazing how less dead that lady would be if this guy wasnt handling a magic
gun pointing it at people on a scene that had no call to point at people in an
industry where you dont point firearms at people with a firearm you dont point
at anything youre not prepared to destroy... but sure, he didnt pull the
trigger. Totally trust a mope who beats people up over parking spots
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Steve JonesDecember 1, 2021 at 19:55
Amazing how less dead that lady would be if this guy wasnt handling a magic
gun pointing it at people on a scene that had no call to point at people in an
industry where you dont point firearms at people with a firearm you dont point
at anything youre not prepared to destroy... but sure, he didnt pull the
trigger. Totally trust a mope who beats people up over parking spots
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