so an invalid locate puts the liability back on you for a utility strike? On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 9:40 AM Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 1. They don't always show up. > 2. If they do, it's not usually before the digstart time. > 3. When they do show up, they don't always mark everything. > 4. If they do mark everything, it's not always where it needs to be. > > > > We built about 20 miles over the last couple of years (contractors doing > the underground work). USIC was at-fault in at least a dozen hits. One of > the hits still hasn't been fully repaired from October 2020. That was on a > Frontier 48-count fiber that was a pretty important route for them, but > USIC was off by 4' in that locate. > > > I will personally be our locator before I depend on USIC to do any of it. > > > USIC's coverage of when they screw up? 10% of your annual spend with them. > The USIC sales guy estimated we'd be at their minimum of $5k/year, meaning > they'd only cover $500/year of their screw ups. We figured it was cheaper > to hire our own locator at $30k/year than USIC at $5k/year. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Steve Jones" <[email protected]> > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]> > *Sent: *Wednesday, January 5, 2022 9:21:17 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Illinois - JULIE membership costs > > Ive never heard complaints or had complaints on their locates. Whats your > beef with them? If they have GPS CAD they mark points and dont do a > physical locate, is that been a problem? > > On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 9:12 AM Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: > >> USIC... SUUUUXXXXXXX >> >> >> Your neighborhood methhead is more reliable than USIC. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Nate Burke" <[email protected]> >> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]> >> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 4, 2022 1:47:39 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Illinois - JULIE membership costs >> >> I can't speak to USIC, as we do all our own locates. I wouldn't think >> that JULIE would care who you are, as long as you pay your dues, and give >> them the map. We have one of our areas where the conduit that runs along >> the edge of a private property between 2 buildings, and we gave them that >> map, and get locates for it. >> >> On 1/4/2022 1:29 PM, Steve Jones wrote: >> >> I havent heard back from JULIE, USIC reached back out and said JULIE >> might not let a private line in the locate database. >> >> What Im looking to achieve is third party notification via JULIE with >> third party locate by USIC. I assume thats the standard scenario. This is >> two duct paths that will traverse public roads. Ive never done any of this >> so Just wanting to make sure the client has the least impact and no >> surprise costs >> I have to submit the engineering plan to the city, the client has to get >> a license agreement with them, then they will get a ROW easement. That >> seems to be going pretty straight forward. The big issue is locates, these >> are both maintenance heavy roads with waste sewer, storm sewer, multiple >> telecom, water mains and laterals, etc and they seem to always be digging >> both sections up for one reason or another >> >> On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 1:16 PM Nate Burke <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> We are a JULIE member. They are easy to work with when you call them. >>> You give them map coordinates, basically a Google Earth outline, and then >>> you get notified anytime something gets called in for that area. I don't' >>> have the bill in front of me, but I think it's ~$150/year and then $1 or $2 >>> per ticket. The bigger the area the more tickets you'll get, and what's >>> going on in that area. The 5G installations are generating about 10-20 >>> tickets per antenna build. Remember, everyone calls JULIE, so if you're in >>> a residential area, you'll get lots of sprinkler/mailbox/CATV locate >>> tickets. If it touches your area in any way, you'll get notified. If >>> you're in an easement behind a house, and they're putting in a new mailbox >>> by their driveway, the address touches your area, so you'll get notified. >>> >>> On 1/4/2022 12:35 PM, Steve Jones wrote: >>> >>> Is anybody here a JULIE member? >>> Im looking to find the costs in general for a specific private line to >>> be in the notification database >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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