That's very much the exception to the rule.  He must be one of the few good
employees.

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 2:59 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]>
wrote:

> thats crazy, those trucks are everywhere you turn. Rates must be good.
>
> Ive never had a bad experience with them, but Ive only had locates done
> for small digs and the potholes showed within tolerance. They actually
> saved us a cut on our mediacom fiber because mediacom didnt even have it
> documented. USIC guy happened to still be out there when the city was
> putting the backhoe in right above where we knew it was. USIC guy located
> it and they were gonna dig right through it. Mediacom gave us a "oh, my bad"
>
> On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 1:46 PM Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Steve, if you haven't heard the complaints you straight up have not been
>> listening.  USIC is simply horrible.  Awful.  Disgustingly terrible.
>>
>> They don't mark for months on end.  Their marks are not even 50% accurate
>> (my house they labeled the gas line on the wrong end of the property, I
>> could have guessed between the tap and meter infinitely better; where they
>> located power they were off by 48 inches (18 is margin of error), and the
>> list goes on).
>>
>> Today I got ~50 tickets for *one residential road* from a competitor.
>> She says it's so "USIC actually does their job".  She had to list literally
>> every address on the road rather than listing the ROW between two points
>> like everyone else does.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 10:22 AM Steve Jones <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ive never heard complaints or had complaints on their locates. Whats
>>> your beef with them? If they have GPS CAD they mark points and dont do a
>>> physical locate, is that  been a problem?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 9:12 AM Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> USIC...   SUUUUXXXXXXX
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Your neighborhood methhead is more reliable than USIC.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From: *"Nate Burke" <[email protected]>
>>>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]>
>>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 4, 2022 1:47:39 PM
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Illinois - JULIE membership costs
>>>>
>>>> I can't speak to USIC, as we do all our own locates.  I wouldn't think
>>>> that JULIE would care who you are, as long as you pay your dues, and give
>>>> them the map.  We have one of our areas where the conduit that runs along
>>>> the edge of a private property between 2 buildings, and we gave them that
>>>> map, and get locates for it.
>>>>
>>>> On 1/4/2022 1:29 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I havent heard back from JULIE, USIC reached back out and said JULIE
>>>> might not let a private line in the locate database.
>>>>
>>>> What Im looking to achieve is third party notification via JULIE with
>>>> third party locate by USIC. I assume thats the standard scenario. This is
>>>> two duct paths that will traverse public roads. Ive never done any of this
>>>> so Just wanting to make sure the client has the least impact and no
>>>> surprise costs
>>>> I have to submit the engineering plan to the city, the client has to
>>>> get a license agreement with them, then they will get a ROW easement. That
>>>> seems to be going pretty straight forward. The big issue is locates, these
>>>> are both maintenance heavy roads with waste sewer, storm sewer, multiple
>>>> telecom, water mains and laterals, etc and they seem to always be digging
>>>> both sections up for one reason or another
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 1:16 PM Nate Burke <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We are a JULIE member.  They are easy to work with when you call
>>>>> them.  You give them map coordinates, basically a Google Earth outline, 
>>>>> and
>>>>> then you get notified anytime something gets called in for that area.  I
>>>>> don't' have the bill in front of me, but I think it's ~$150/year and then
>>>>> $1 or $2 per ticket.  The bigger the area the more tickets you'll get, and
>>>>> what's going on in that area.  The 5G installations are generating about
>>>>> 10-20 tickets per antenna build.  Remember, everyone calls JULIE, so if
>>>>> you're in a residential area, you'll get lots of sprinkler/mailbox/CATV
>>>>> locate tickets.  If it touches your area in any way, you'll get notified.
>>>>> If you're in an easement behind a house, and they're putting in a new
>>>>> mailbox by their driveway, the address touches your area, so you'll get
>>>>> notified.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/4/2022 12:35 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Is anybody here a JULIE member?
>>>>> Im looking to find the costs in general for a specific private line to
>>>>> be in the notification database
>>>>>
>>>>>
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