For an ILEC, the statutory requirement used to be 8 hours minimum battery life. I think that is a reasonable amount if you have a generator or have a portable that could be connected within the 8 hour limit.

-----Original Message----- From: Robert
Sent: Thursday, February 3, 2022 10:16 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 20kw/hr in the bottom of my rack

My worry about the 30KW of batteries is a "what if"...   It's basically
a monster electrical bomb...  I fused them, but if something happens to
one of them in the rack, it isn't going to be pretty...  Water is my
worry...

On 2/3/22 8:47 AM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
It’s that ‘almost’ that drives me nuts. With over 100 sites and multiple generators the odds of all of them starting all of the time are low. Yes we do self tests (and sometimes even notice when they fail) but even then they sometimes still manage to let us down.

Mark



On Feb 3, 2022, at 11:21 AM, Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:

My generator "almost always" will start and run in 2 minutes. I just realized that I did not do what I used to do with all the generators. I would relocate the battery into the temp controlled building and put an aux trickle charger on them. We need to do that with my latest central office. I also had telemetry on them so we could remotely check on them to see if they were exercising each week.

-----Original Message----- From: Mark Radabaugh
Sent: Thursday, February 3, 2022 6:19 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 20kw/hr in the bottom of my rack

Heh…. 2 minutes while the genset starts is a fantasy. Minimum is 4 hours of battery so when the power goes out and the generator fails to start that you have time to go to the shop, get a portable generator, drive to the site and beat the standby generator into submission or hook up the portable. 24 hours of battery if you like to sleep.

Mark



On Feb 3, 2022, at 8:01 AM, Dennis Burgess <[email protected]> wrote:

20kw genset with transfer switch is 5k. don't know if this is a better solution. I would venture to state that it would not be. Drop in a genset and a small battery just to keep things up for the 2 minutes while the genset starts.



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-----Original Message-----
From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
Sent: Wednesday, February 2, 2022 5:02 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 20kw/hr in the bottom of my rack

Those run $1.7K plus shipping each from Signature Solar...

On 2/2/22 2:56 PM, Erich Kaiser wrote:
How much vs Generator?

I have always been a fan of both.

Erich Kaiser
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On Wed, Feb 2, 2022 at 4:53 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

   I would never want to be without a generator, irrespective of the
   size of my battery.  A car crash on the right pole can have you out
   of commercial power for days, I know of one road it was out for a
   full month.  Freight train caught a transmission line and about 20
   100’ poles all snapped off like dominos.
   *From:* Peter Kranz via AF
   *Sent:* Wednesday, February 2, 2022 3:46 PM
   *To:* [email protected]
   *Cc:* Peter Kranz
   *Subject:* [AFMUG] 20kw/hr in the bottom of my rack

   No more generator here.. 40hrs of backup battery capacity for this
   500W site.____

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   Peter Kranz
   www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/>
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   Mobile: 510-207-0000
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