Employees/contractors/workers/etc On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 3:05 PM Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
> I know ILECs with zero employees. The first ILEC I worked for had 2 > employees. > The most recent one I worked for had 15 employees. > > *From:* Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Thursday, February 3, 2022 11:53 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Cc:* Chuck McCown > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 20kw/hr in the bottom of my rack > > ILEC has 700 employees minimum so they have up to 2 techs to roll out with > a generator... > > On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 1:17 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> For an ILEC, the statutory requirement used to be 8 hours minimum battery >> life. I think that is a reasonable amount if you have a generator or >> have a >> portable that could be connected within the 8 hour limit. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Robert >> Sent: Thursday, February 3, 2022 10:16 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 20kw/hr in the bottom of my rack >> >> My worry about the 30KW of batteries is a "what if"... It's basically >> a monster electrical bomb... I fused them, but if something happens to >> one of them in the rack, it isn't going to be pretty... Water is my >> worry... >> >> On 2/3/22 8:47 AM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: >> > It’s that ‘almost’ that drives me nuts. With over 100 sites and >> multiple >> > generators the odds of all of them starting all of the time are low. >> Yes >> > we do self tests (and sometimes even notice when they fail) but even >> then >> > they sometimes still manage to let us down. >> > >> > Mark >> > >> > >> > >> >> On Feb 3, 2022, at 11:21 AM, Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> My generator "almost always" will start and run in 2 minutes. I just >> >> realized that I did not do what I used to do with all the generators. >> I >> >> would relocate the battery into the temp controlled building and put >> an >> >> aux trickle charger on them. We need to do that with my latest >> central >> >> office. I also had telemetry on them so we could remotely check on >> them >> >> to see if they were exercising each week. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Mark Radabaugh >> >> Sent: Thursday, February 3, 2022 6:19 AM >> >> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 20kw/hr in the bottom of my rack >> >> >> >> Heh…. 2 minutes while the genset starts is a fantasy. Minimum >> is 4 >> >> hours of battery so when the power goes out and the generator fails to >> >> start that you have time to go to the shop, get a portable generator, >> >> drive to the site and beat the standby generator into submission or >> hook >> >> up the portable. 24 hours of battery if you like to sleep. >> >> >> >> Mark >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Feb 3, 2022, at 8:01 AM, Dennis Burgess <[email protected]> >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> 20kw genset with transfer switch is 5k. don't know if this is a >> better >> >>> solution. I would venture to state that it would not be. Drop in a >> >>> genset and a small battery just to keep things up for the 2 minutes >> >>> while the genset starts. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer >> >>> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium >> ePMP >> >>> Certified >> >>> Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition” >> >>> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services >> >>> Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net >> >>> Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com >> >>> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >> >>> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Robert Andrews >> >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 2, 2022 5:02 PM >> >>> To: [email protected] >> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 20kw/hr in the bottom of my rack >> >>> >> >>> Those run $1.7K plus shipping each from Signature Solar... >> >>> >> >>> On 2/2/22 2:56 PM, Erich Kaiser wrote: >> >>>> How much vs Generator? >> >>>> >> >>>> I have always been a fan of both. >> >>>> >> >>>> Erich Kaiser >> >>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> >>>> Office: 815-570-3101 >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On Wed, Feb 2, 2022 at 4:53 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected] >> >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> I would never want to be without a generator, irrespective of the >> >>>> size of my battery. A car crash on the right pole can have you >> out >> >>>> of commercial power for days, I know of one road it was out for a >> >>>> full month. Freight train caught a transmission line and about 20 >> >>>> 100’ poles all snapped off like dominos. >> >>>> *From:* Peter Kranz via AF >> >>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 2, 2022 3:46 PM >> >>>> *To:* [email protected] >> >>>> *Cc:* Peter Kranz >> >>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] 20kw/hr in the bottom of my rack >> >>>> >> >>>> No more generator here.. 40hrs of backup battery capacity for this >> >>>> 500W site.____ >> >>>> >> >>>> ____ >> >>>> >> >>>> ____ >> >>>> >> >>>> ____ >> >>>> >> >>>> Peter Kranz >> >>>> www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> >> >>>> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 >> >>>> Mobile: 510-207-0000 >> >>>> [email protected]____ >> >>>> >> >>>> ____ >> >>>> >> >>>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>>> -- AF mailing list >> >>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >>>> <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> >> >>>> >> >>>> -- AF mailing list >> >>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >>>> <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> -- >> >>> AF mailing list >> >>> [email protected] >> >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >>> -- >> >>> AF mailing list >> >>> [email protected] >> >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> >> >> -- >> >> AF mailing list >> >> [email protected] >> >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> >> >> -- >> >> AF mailing list >> >> [email protected] >> >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > >> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >
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