I know ILECs with zero employees. The first ILEC I worked for had 2 employees. The most recent one I worked for had 15 employees.
From: Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, February 3, 2022 11:53 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 20kw/hr in the bottom of my rack ILEC has 700 employees minimum so they have up to 2 techs to roll out with a generator... On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 1:17 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote: For an ILEC, the statutory requirement used to be 8 hours minimum battery life. I think that is a reasonable amount if you have a generator or have a portable that could be connected within the 8 hour limit. -----Original Message----- From: Robert Sent: Thursday, February 3, 2022 10:16 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 20kw/hr in the bottom of my rack My worry about the 30KW of batteries is a "what if"... It's basically a monster electrical bomb... I fused them, but if something happens to one of them in the rack, it isn't going to be pretty... Water is my worry... On 2/3/22 8:47 AM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: > It’s that ‘almost’ that drives me nuts. With over 100 sites and multiple > generators the odds of all of them starting all of the time are low. Yes > we do self tests (and sometimes even notice when they fail) but even then > they sometimes still manage to let us down. > > Mark > > > >> On Feb 3, 2022, at 11:21 AM, Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> My generator "almost always" will start and run in 2 minutes. I just >> realized that I did not do what I used to do with all the generators. I >> would relocate the battery into the temp controlled building and put an >> aux trickle charger on them. We need to do that with my latest central >> office. I also had telemetry on them so we could remotely check on them >> to see if they were exercising each week. >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Mark Radabaugh >> Sent: Thursday, February 3, 2022 6:19 AM >> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 20kw/hr in the bottom of my rack >> >> Heh…. 2 minutes while the genset starts is a fantasy. Minimum is 4 >> hours of battery so when the power goes out and the generator fails to >> start that you have time to go to the shop, get a portable generator, >> drive to the site and beat the standby generator into submission or hook >> up the portable. 24 hours of battery if you like to sleep. >> >> Mark >> >> >> >>> On Feb 3, 2022, at 8:01 AM, Dennis Burgess <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> 20kw genset with transfer switch is 5k. don't know if this is a better >>> solution. I would venture to state that it would not be. Drop in a >>> genset and a small battery just to keep things up for the 2 minutes >>> while the genset starts. >>> >>> >>> >>> Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer >>> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP >>> Certified >>> Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition” >>> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services >>> Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net >>> Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Robert Andrews >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 2, 2022 5:02 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 20kw/hr in the bottom of my rack >>> >>> Those run $1.7K plus shipping each from Signature Solar... >>> >>> On 2/2/22 2:56 PM, Erich Kaiser wrote: >>>> How much vs Generator? >>>> >>>> I have always been a fan of both. >>>> >>>> Erich Kaiser >>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> Office: 815-570-3101 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 2, 2022 at 4:53 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I would never want to be without a generator, irrespective of the >>>> size of my battery. A car crash on the right pole can have you out >>>> of commercial power for days, I know of one road it was out for a >>>> full month. Freight train caught a transmission line and about 20 >>>> 100’ poles all snapped off like dominos. >>>> *From:* Peter Kranz via AF >>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 2, 2022 3:46 PM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Cc:* Peter Kranz >>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] 20kw/hr in the bottom of my rack >>>> >>>> No more generator here.. 40hrs of backup battery capacity for this >>>> 500W site.____ >>>> >>>> ____ >>>> >>>> ____ >>>> >>>> ____ >>>> >>>> Peter Kranz >>>> www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> >>>> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 >>>> Mobile: 510-207-0000 >>>> [email protected]____ >>>> >>>> ____ >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> -- AF mailing list >>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> >>>> >>>> -- AF mailing list >>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list [email protected] http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list [email protected] http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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