Multiple copies. On Wed, Feb 9, 2022 at 4:31 PM Robert <[email protected]> wrote:
> The issue with digital storage is the duration of the digital copies. > Even laser discs decay over time, magnetic images decay faster. Tape > images done in the 60s are being retranscribed with serious errors because > of decay of the magnetic poles... > > On 2/9/22 11:13 AM, Brian Webster wrote: > > In the Navy we had very large Halon system to combat fires in the main > engineering spaces. If you worked in that space you actually wore a person > sized breathing device that would last you long enough to get out of that > space if Halon was activated. And you can bet we had a lot of training > about it, the alarms, the time you had to get out after the alarm sounded > before it was deployed etc. > > > > In conjunction with the idea of losing documents, we should as a society > get better at scanning these things. It is so much easier to have multiple > diverse digital copies of these than the physical paper. Hell the banking > industry got out of the paper check stuff 20 years ago. Have you looked at > old documents scanned from original from places like Ancestry.com or > Family.searc.org? They have links to a lot of governmental document > sources, for instance I could see scans of the military muster reports for > family members in the revolutionary war or from the state records of > pension payments to civil war veterans. Mind boggling that we can now see > scans of those original documents. > > > > Thank you, > > Brian Webster > > www.wirelessmapping.com > > > > *From:* AF [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via AF > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 9, 2022 1:36 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Cc:* Chuck McCown > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Document Storage > > > > I visited one of those once. Before going in we had to have a training > session about the alarms and the controls. Not sure if we were supposed to > do something other than leave if the alarm went off. Maybe there was a > delay to allow us to exit before releasing the gas. It was a serious > deal. > > > > *From:* Bill Prince > > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 9, 2022 11:11 AM > > *To:* [email protected] > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Document Storage > > > > In my former years, data centers often had halon systems which would > displace air in the entire data center. They were phased out because no air > is just as bad for humans as it is for fires. > > > > bp > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > On 2/9/2022 10:03 AM, Zach Underwood wrote: > > Automate the whole racking system so that you can purge oxygen out of the > whole room? > > > > On Wed, Feb 9, 2022 at 12:42 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Wow, I am sure there are lots of irreplaceable documents. So if you were > to > build one, I wonder how to prevent this same problem? > I guess structural engineering needs to presume all the racks are full of > water. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nate Burke > Sent: Wednesday, February 9, 2022 10:36 AM > To: Animal Farm > Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Document Storage > > Here in the Chicago suburbs, a 250k sqft document storage warehouse just > burned down. It took them a week to put out the fire. 30' Racks > stacked with banker boxes, when the building sprinklers hit it, the > paper got waterlogged and got too heavy for the racks to support and > came down, taking roof supports and building sprinkler system down with > them. Once the roof was opened up, the fire got lots of air, and just > started raging. With the roof gone, nothing was holding up the precast > walls, etc.etc. Basically there's no more building left. > > So what kind of paper documents are stored in warehouses like this? Bank > Documents? Law office contracts? The Panama Papers? I'm just curious > what the market is for industrial scale paper storage like this. I see > a lot of storage places like this around the suburbs. Iron Mountain has > a couple big facilities. I'm guessing you are responsible for your own > redundant copies at multiple storage warehouses? Also seems like if > there are just boxes of papers stacked on a shelf, there's really no > security. > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > > -- > > Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA) > > My website <http://zachunderwood.me> > > advance-networking.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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