In the Navy we had very large Halon system to combat fires in the
main engineering spaces. If you worked in that space you actually
wore a person sized breathing device that would last you long
enough to get out of that space if Halon was activated. And you
can bet we had a lot of training about it, the alarms, the time
you had to get out after the alarm sounded before it was deployed
etc.
In conjunction with the idea of losing documents, we should as a
society get better at scanning these things. It is so much easier
to have multiple diverse digital copies of these than the
physical paper. Hell the banking industry got out of the paper
check stuff 20 years ago. Have you looked at old documents
scanned from original from places like Ancestry.com or
Family.searc.org <http://Family.searc.org>? They have links to a
lot of governmental document sources, for instance I could see
scans of the military muster reports for family members in the
revolutionary war or from the state records of pension payments
to civil war veterans. Mind boggling that we can now see scans of
those original documents.
Thank you,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com <http://www.wirelessmapping.com>
*From:*AF [mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via AF
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 9, 2022 1:36 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Cc:* Chuck McCown
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Document Storage
I visited one of those once. Before going in we had to have a
training session about the alarms and the controls. Not sure if
we were supposed to do something other than leave if the alarm
went off. Maybe there was a delay to allow us to exit before
releasing the gas. It was a serious deal.
*From:*Bill Prince
*Sent:*Wednesday, February 9, 2022 11:11 AM
*To:*[email protected]
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT: Document Storage
In my former years, data centers often had halon systems which
would displace air in the entire data center. They were phased
out because no air is just as bad for humans as it is for fires.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 2/9/2022 10:03 AM, Zach Underwood wrote:
Automate the whole racking system so that you can purge
oxygen out of the whole room?
On Wed, Feb 9, 2022 at 12:42 PM Chuck McCown via AF
<[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
Wow, I am sure there are lots of irreplaceable
documents. So if you were to
build one, I wonder how to prevent this same problem?
I guess structural engineering needs to presume all the
racks are full of
water.
-----Original Message-----
From: Nate Burke
Sent: Wednesday, February 9, 2022 10:36 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Document Storage
Here in the Chicago suburbs, a 250k sqft document storage
warehouse just
burned down. It took them a week to put out the fire.
30' Racks
stacked with banker boxes, when the building sprinklers
hit it, the
paper got waterlogged and got too heavy for the racks to
support and
came down, taking roof supports and building sprinkler
system down with
them. Once the roof was opened up, the fire got lots of
air, and just
started raging. With the roof gone, nothing was holding
up the precast
walls, etc.etc. Basically there's no more building left.
So what kind of paper documents are stored in warehouses
like this? Bank
Documents? Law office contracts? The Panama Papers?
I'm just curious
what the market is for industrial scale paper storage
like this. I see
a lot of storage places like this around the suburbs.
Iron Mountain has
a couple big facilities. I'm guessing you are
responsible for your own
redundant copies at multiple storage warehouses? Also
seems like if
there are just boxes of papers stacked on a shelf,
there's really no
security.
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