So, why would you reregister?  Not asking about your scruples or the reason for 
registration in the first place.  But as a practical issue, nothing bad will 
happen if the CPE moves will it?  It does not self report position does it?  
Kinda like signalling when there is no one else on the road.  Or stopping at a 
red light in the middle of the night.    

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 8:47 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: CBRS

If it's registered and good..leave it alone. 

If it needs re registered, like it moves on the house or to a different house 
you'll just need that new CPI guy to do it.

On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 10:19 AM <[email protected]> wrote:

  That’s fine, but what if I leave the company and let my certification expire? 
 Does another employee have to re-enter the CPE into the SAS?



  -Adam





  From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
  Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 9:51 AM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: CBRS



  Just recertify, you have to have someone on staff with it.



  On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 9:05 AM <[email protected]> wrote:

    Interesting.  I hadn’t thought about what happens when a certification 
expires.  That will be a rude shock if it works that way.



    From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Steve Jones
    Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 8:35 PM
    To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: CBRS



    If a cpi leaves and doesnt keep renewing then one day everybody 
disconnects. 5 yeats comes quick



    On Tue, Feb 15, 2022, 12:42 PM Mathew Howard <[email protected]> wrote:

      It kind of makes sense, because a CPI is really just supposed to be 
verifying that the install was done correctly. If somebody goes and messes with 
it later on, you can't really hold the CPI responsible for that, so there 
theoretically shouldn't be any ongoing liability, as long as you did the job 
right in the first place. There's less incentive for an employee to make sure 
they did everything right, if they aren't personally responsible for it.



      A CPI leaving the company shouldn't really have any impact on any 
existing CBSD's... I would think the CPI could even be a contractor, but I 
never actually took the CPI course, so I could be wrong...





      On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 11:46 AM Steve Jones <[email protected]> 
wrote:

        I was hoping they had changed that dumb rule



        On Tue, Feb 15, 2022, 10:28 AM <[email protected]> wrote:

          Exactly.  They made a big point of the fact that you are personally 
responsible for accuracy of the data you put in.  Not sure how a company CPI 
would fit with that.



          -Adam





          From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
          Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 10:35 AM
          To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: CBRS



          I mean I did and I'm horrible at tests.  I did the Google test at 
Coursera.



          There simply can't and won't be a company CPI.  If you leave the 
company then the company needs to recertify.



          On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 10:30 AM Steve Jones 
<[email protected]> wrote:

            Were any of us really absorbing all that much when we did CPI? It 
was new, half of it wasnt even finalized, the course was too long and dry for 
the small volume of info.





            speaking of CPI, have they created a company CPI yet? ours is my 
name and if I transition from employee to contractor Im curious how that 
impacts the registered CBSDs



            On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 8:49 AM Josh Luthman 
<[email protected]> wrote:

              It's like 90% of the class for your CPI, I mean clearly you 
weren't paying attention :P  The requirement is to report the height and 
position.  Every time.  Every CPE, every AP.



              If it's operating under your NN license, which is almost 
certainly expired, you're operating illegally.



              If you're operating under CBRS it requires you to report every 
CPE.



              On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 7:55 AM Andy Trimmell 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                I’m sitting here wondering how I missed this in CPI training. I 
believed that what was supposed to be “registered” was a CBSD which had 
specific height requirements and type which these units aren’t exceeding these 
specifications.   Yes the product is Baicells.  



                Anyone else here that uses Baicells gone down this road too 
with a similar assumption?







                From: AF [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mathew 
Howard
                Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 4:35 PM
                To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
                Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: CBRS



                With Baicells LTE it's possible to leave the CPE in non-CBRS 
mode (either by not enabling it, or by just never upgrading the firmware to the 
CBRS capable version), and they'll connect to a CBRS eNB just fine... I 
wouldn't be surprised if that's true for some of the other LTE products too.



                On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 3:23 PM <[email protected]> wrote:

                  Well it occurred to me that I’m thinking of Cambium 450 which 
forces you to play by the rules by disabling bridging until the CPE is 
authorized by the SAS.  Maybe Andy has a different product that works 
differently.

                  ….but yeah all fixed CPE are supposed to be in the SAS.



                  I think mobile devices don’t need to be registered.  Since 
Andy mentioned eNB I’m guessing maybe he’s got an LTE product, and maybe the 
vendor allows you to pretend the UE are all mobile? 







                  From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
                  Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 4:16 PM
                  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
                  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: CBRS



                  Yeah, if they're still running without being registered, 
you've got some problems that need fixing...



                  On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 3:09 PM <[email protected]> wrote:

                    If you’re using CBRS then your CPE can’t connect at all if 
it’s not registered with the SAS.  It literally won’t connect.



                    I think you may be stuck in another time period.





                    From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Andy 
Trimmell
                    Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 4:05 PM
                    To: [email protected]
                    Subject: [AFMUG] OT: CBRS



                    Do all of you individually register your CPEs?   I just got 
an email out of the blue telling me I need to register each one of the CPEs 
that are connected to my eNBs.  Am I just misunderstanding what he’s saying?







                    Andy Trimmell

                    Business Manager

                    PDS Connect

                    317-831-3000



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