i feel the same about robbing liquor stores

On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 10:03 AM Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
wrote:

> >Kinda like signalling when there is no one else on the road.  Or stopping
> at a red light in the middle of the night.
>
> It's this.  If you aren't caught it's no problem.  If you are caught,
> something bad "could" happen.
>
> On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 10:56 AM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> So, why would you reregister?  Not asking about your scruples or the
>> reason for registration in the first place.  But as a practical issue,
>> nothing bad will happen if the CPE moves will it?  It does not self report
>> position does it?  Kinda like signalling when there is no one else on the
>> road.  Or stopping at a red light in the middle of the night.
>>
>> *From:* Josh Luthman
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 16, 2022 8:47 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: CBRS
>>
>> If it's registered and good..leave it alone.
>>
>> If it needs re registered, like it moves on the house or to a different
>> house you'll just need that new CPI guy to do it.
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 10:19 AM <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> That’s fine, but what if I leave the company and let my certification
>>> expire?  Does another employee have to re-enter the CPE into the SAS?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Adam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 16, 2022 9:51 AM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: CBRS
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just recertify, you have to have someone on staff with it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 9:05 AM <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Interesting.  I hadn’t thought about what happens when a certification
>>> expires.  That will be a rude shock if it works that way.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 15, 2022 8:35 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: CBRS
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If a cpi leaves and doesnt keep renewing then one day everybody
>>> disconnects. 5 yeats comes quick
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 15, 2022, 12:42 PM Mathew Howard <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> It kind of makes sense, because a CPI is really just supposed to be
>>> verifying that the install was done correctly. If somebody goes and messes
>>> with it later on, you can't really hold the CPI responsible for that, so
>>> there theoretically shouldn't be any ongoing liability, as long as you did
>>> the job right in the first place. There's less incentive for an employee to
>>> make sure they did everything right, if they aren't personally responsible
>>> for it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A CPI leaving the company shouldn't really have any impact on any
>>> existing CBSD's... I would think the CPI could even be a contractor, but I
>>> never actually took the CPI course, so I could be wrong...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 11:46 AM Steve Jones <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I was hoping they had changed that dumb rule
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 15, 2022, 10:28 AM <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Exactly.  They made a big point of the fact that you are personally
>>> responsible for accuracy of the data you put in.  Not sure how a company
>>> CPI would fit with that.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Adam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 15, 2022 10:35 AM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: CBRS
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I mean I did and I'm horrible at tests.  I did the Google test at
>>> Coursera.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> There simply can't and won't be a company CPI.  If you leave the company
>>> then the company needs to recertify.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 10:30 AM Steve Jones <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Were any of us really absorbing all that much when we did CPI? It was
>>> new, half of it wasnt even finalized, the course was too long and dry for
>>> the small volume of info.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> speaking of CPI, have they created a company CPI yet? ours is my name
>>> and if I transition from employee to contractor Im curious how that impacts
>>> the registered CBSDs
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 8:49 AM Josh Luthman <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> It's like 90% of the class for your CPI, I mean clearly you weren't
>>> paying attention :P  The requirement is to report the height and position.
>>> Every time.  Every CPE, every AP.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If it's operating under your NN license, which is almost certainly
>>> expired, you're operating illegally.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you're operating under CBRS it requires you to report every CPE.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 7:55 AM Andy Trimmell <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I’m sitting here wondering how I missed this in CPI training. I believed
>>> that what was supposed to be “registered” was a CBSD which had specific
>>> height requirements and type which these units aren’t exceeding these
>>> specifications.   Yes the product is Baicells.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyone else here that uses Baicells gone down this road too with a
>>> similar assumption?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
>>> *Sent:* Monday, February 14, 2022 4:35 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: CBRS
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> With Baicells LTE it's possible to leave the CPE in non-CBRS mode
>>> (either by not enabling it, or by just never upgrading the firmware to the
>>> CBRS capable version), and they'll connect to a CBRS eNB just fine... I
>>> wouldn't be surprised if that's true for some of the other LTE products too.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 3:23 PM <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Well it occurred to me that I’m thinking of Cambium 450 which forces you
>>> to play by the rules by disabling bridging until the CPE is authorized by
>>> the SAS.  Maybe Andy has a different product that works differently.
>>>
>>> ….but yeah all fixed CPE are supposed to be in the SAS.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I think mobile devices don’t need to be registered.  Since Andy
>>> mentioned eNB I’m guessing maybe he’s got an LTE product, and maybe the
>>> vendor allows you to pretend the UE are all mobile?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
>>> *Sent:* Monday, February 14, 2022 4:16 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: CBRS
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, if they're still running without being registered, you've got some
>>> problems that need fixing...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 3:09 PM <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> If you’re using CBRS then your CPE can’t connect at all if it’s not
>>> registered with the SAS.  It literally won’t connect.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I think you may be stuck in another time period.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Andy Trimmell
>>> *Sent:* Monday, February 14, 2022 4:05 PM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT: CBRS
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Do all of you individually register your CPEs?   I just got an email out
>>> of the blue telling me I need to register each one of the CPEs that are
>>> connected to my eNBs.  Am I just misunderstanding what he’s saying?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Andy Trimmell
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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