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From: Jeff Broadwick - Lists 
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2022 9:23 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - here I go again...

Is it just me, or does anyone else think that lethal robots are a really bad 
idea?


Jeff Broadwick 
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  On Jun 7, 2022, at 11:08 AM, Darin Steffl <[email protected]> wrote:


   
  Maybe Tesla's new Optimus robot can help in future active shooter situations. 
Send it in instead of scared humans and let it disable the bad guy.

  On Tue, Jun 7, 2022, 9:40 AM Andy Trimmell <[email protected]> wrote:

    I liked when the conversation started with people adding in some ways to 
possibly resolve things.  Ideas are great. Pointing fingers is divisive. 



    From: AF [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jan-GAMs
    Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2022 10:28 AM
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - here I go again...



    After republicans take office the police, firefighters, libraries and 
schools get defunded/reduced, I'm on a local fireboard, experinced it happen 
several times.  Don't complain to me about who's doing the defunding.

    On 6/6/22 11:05, Steve Jones wrote:

      There has to be a decision made on what we want from police. 

      You cant demand they shoot white shooters, but gently caress any other 
ethnicity.

      You cant demand police be demilitarized at the same time you demand they 
be ready to engage a heavily armed operator at a split second notice

      you cant demand police protect schools at all times while simultaneously 
eliminating 50 percent of the school resource officers.

      You cant demand the school resource officers be a soft presence while you 
also want them shooting perps in the face.

      You cant do any of this at all while also defunding the police.



      Military is ready because theyre always ready, police are never ready 
because theyre always in sensitivty classes, or being arrested for doing their 
job because the media said so.



      Firefightrs are no more capable of handling these situations than police, 
theyre all people



      Theres also insurability. Scene safety if paramount in all Emergency 
services. Firefighters dont run into active petrochemical fires the same as 
they would run into a residential structure fire. There is a line in which the 
insurance companies (and taxpayers) will not tolerate the risk. When monday 
morning quarterbacking gives way to tuesday morning reality, the demands will 
seem much less realistic





      I say we just burn it all. pick any longitudinal point and light her up. 
May only the strongest and fastest survive



      On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 12:51 PM castarritt <[email protected]> wrote:

        We've neutered the police so effectively they can't do the job anymore. 
 We need terminator robots.



        On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 12:49 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> 
wrote:

          I have been shot at, but never been in combat.  I don’t carry a 
weapon because I don’t want that option.  That option is one of the initial 
starting conditions of a higher order ordinary differential equation.  

          I prefer a linear equation.  



          If a firefighter is armored such that they can probably survive a 
gunshot, that would steer their thinking toward rescue over taking out the 
shooter.  Let the cops do that.  



          From: Jason McKemie 

          Sent: Monday, June 6, 2022 11:09 AM

          To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - here I go again...



          True, if they're properly trained and doing their job it would be 
more effective.



          On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 12:05 PM Robert <[email protected]> wrote:

            There was also the shooting down in the south, where they had a 
school "police" officer who stood back and did nothing.   That's not 
necessarily a solution either.

            On 6/6/22 9:58 AM, Jason McKemie wrote:

              Seems like we should just be giving additional funding to police 
departments so that they can have a regular presence at schools.



              On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 11:08 AM Chuck McCown via AF 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                I may regret posting this but I had a thought.



                How about we let the fire department handle active shooters at 
schools.  

                They know how to get there fast.  They are ready to go at an 
instants notice.  

                They know how to breach any building and rescue survivors.

                They have heavy protective gear on, just add a layer of kevlar. 
 

                Or give them extra/different gear they can don on the way to 
the incident.  

                They sure as hell don’t stand around outside discussing 
jurisdiction and strategy.  

                They care more about rescue than they do about their own lives. 
 

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