here we go, pucker up:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/990341/us-army-exoskeleton-ironman-russia-china-world-war-3-lockheed-martin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlDLwTsRHtU

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidhambling/2021/11/04/australian-army-gets-bulletproof-attack-robots/?sh=46cb46a8463b


On 6/7/22 21:30, Jan-GAMs wrote:

On the face of it, it violates the three robot laws. Programming an end-run around those 3 laws and us humans are in trouble.  So how do we program a robot to tell the difference between crazy carrying a gun and not crazy?  Killer vs. non-killer?  Cop arresting criminal vs cop doing his job?  Cop carrying weapons?  Can you bend over enough to kiss your ass goodbye?

I like those really fast dog-like robots the military is working on, they could take out a whole platoon, silently.

On 6/7/22 08:23, Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote:
Is it just me, or does anyone else think that lethal robots are a really bad idea?

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On Jun 7, 2022, at 11:08 AM, Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> wrote:


Maybe Tesla's new Optimus robot can help in future active shooter situations. Send it in instead of scared humans and let it disable the bad guy.

On Tue, Jun 7, 2022, 9:40 AM Andy Trimmell <atrimm...@precisionds.com> wrote:

    I liked when the conversation started with people adding in some
    ways to possibly resolve things. Ideas are great. Pointing
    fingers is divisive.

    *From:*AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jan-GAMs
    *Sent:* Tuesday, June 07, 2022 10:28 AM
    *To:* af@af.afmug.com
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - here I go again...

    After republicans take office the police, firefighters,
    libraries and schools get defunded/reduced, I'm on a local
    fireboard, experinced it happen several times.  Don't complain
    to me about who's doing the defunding.

    On 6/6/22 11:05, Steve Jones wrote:

        There has to be a decision made on what we want from police.

        You cant demand they shoot white shooters, but gently caress
        any other ethnicity.

        You cant demand police be demilitarized at the same time you
        demand they be ready to engage a heavily armed operator at a
        split second notice

        you cant demand police protect schools at all times while
        simultaneously eliminating 50 percent of the school resource
        officers.

        You cant demand the school resource officers be a soft
        presence while you also want them shooting perps in the face.

        You cant do any of this at all while also defunding the police.

        Military is ready because theyre always ready, police are
        never ready because theyre always in sensitivty classes, or
        being arrested for doing their job because the media said so.

        Firefightrs are no more capable of handling these situations
        than police, theyre all people

        Theres also insurability. Scene safety if paramount in all
        Emergency services. Firefighters dont run into active
        petrochemical fires the same as they would run into a
        residential structure fire. There is a line in which the
        insurance companies (and taxpayers) will not tolerate the
        risk. When monday morning quarterbacking gives way to
        tuesday morning reality, the demands will seem much less
        realistic

        I say we just burn it all. pick any longitudinal point and
        light her up. May only the strongest and fastest survive

        On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 12:51 PM castarritt
        <castarr...@gmail.com> wrote:

            We've neutered the police so effectively they can't do
            the job anymore.  We need terminator robots.

            On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 12:49 PM Chuck McCown via AF
            <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:

                I have been shot at, but never been in combat.  I
                don’t carry a weapon because I don’t want that
                option.  That option is one of the initial starting
                conditions of a higher order ordinary differential
                equation.

                I prefer a linear equation.

                If a firefighter is armored such that they can
                probably survive a gunshot, that would steer their
                thinking toward rescue over taking out the shooter.
                Let the cops do that.

                *From:*Jason McKemie

                *Sent:*Monday, June 6, 2022 11:09 AM

                *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

                *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT - here I go again...

                True, if they're properly trained and doing their
                job it would be more effective.

                On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 12:05 PM Robert
                <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:

                    There was also the shooting down in the south,
                    where they had a school "police" officer who
                    stood back and did nothing.   That's not
                    necessarily a solution either.

                    On 6/6/22 9:58 AM, Jason McKemie wrote:

                        Seems like we should just be giving
                        additional funding to police departments so
                        that they can have a regular presence at
                        schools.

                        On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 11:08 AM Chuck McCown
                        via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:

                            I may regret posting this but I had a
                            thought.

                            How about we let the fire department
                            handle active shooters at schools.

                            They know how to get there fast.  They
                            are ready to go at an instants notice.

                            They know how to breach any building and
                            rescue survivors.

                            They have heavy protective gear on, just
                            add a layer of kevlar.

                            Or give them extra/different gear they
                            can don on the way to the incident.

                            They sure as hell don’t stand around
                            outside discussing jurisdiction and
                            strategy.

                            They care more about rescue than they do
                            about their own lives.

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