Can the terminal block handle 12AWG wire? If one of the outputs shorts, does that take the entire PDU offline, or is there internal limiting with the 3A per port.

On 11/18/2022 6:57 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
The packetflux base 3 is similar in the context of it having similar i/o possibilities. Â

The main difference is that the tycon product is fixed function, so as long as you can monitor exactly what you want with it, it will work for you.  If you want a different set of i/o then you're SOL.

I also would caution anyone passing current through the tycon product to be mindful that the terminal blocks they use may not be able to handle what they specify as a maximum current on a continuous basis. Typically those types of connectors are rated at 12 or 15A and they say they can do 20A. I'm hopeful that they have bought special connectors to handle 20A, but even if they didn't they should be able to handle short periods of 20A.Â

The packetflux Base 3 has evolved quite a bit from the early days, although there are still some limitations due to us wanting the current version to be drop in compatible with the previous version.  But some of the updates make this more useful at a wisp DC site.  For instance, the base 3 and most of the power distribution or injection models will handle both positive and negative power, at a much wider range than most units. So you can use both +24V and -48V to power it up at the same time.Â

On Thu, Nov 17, 2022, 11:11 AM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Nice.  Good price too.  What does Forrest have that is similar?
    Â
    *From:* Jason Wilson
    *Sent:* Thursday, November 17, 2022 10:34 AM
    *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor DC Distribution
    Â
    I'm just starting to use these for some VERY remote sites.Â
    Â
    https://www.tyconsystems.com/tpdin-monitor-web3

    Jason Wilson
    Remotely Located
    Critical Infrastructure Service Provider
    Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
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    On Thu, Nov 17, 2022, 09:31 <[email protected]> wrote:

        I've used the PDU at the bottom of the tower.  My only
        complaint at the time
        was the character limit on port description.  I think it was
        11 characters
        or some such....I had to come up with some cryptic
        abbreviations when I
        really wanted to say "Power to Telrad Compact 1000 - 270
        azimuth".  I think
        they were talking about fixing that in a future version of the
        base unit,
        but I haven't used any packetflux lately so I don't know if
        that's still an
        issue or not.  If you're powering 100W radios then you'd be
        limited to 3 per
        PDU.  A fourth radio would put you over the 8A total.  That
        wasn't an issue
        in my deployment, but if you're planning 4+ sectors per tower
        then that's
something to be aware of. Next problem is wire gauge. Anything bigger than
        14ga is gonna have trouble squeezing into the connector on the
        packet flux
        PDU.  Voltage drop on 48V /8A with 14ga is going to be pretty
        severe at
        300ft, but if the tower is short then it's probably ok.  I
        was deploying on
        70ft poles, and we ran 16ga up to each radio so it was
        acceptable, but
        feeding the 8A input on the packetflux PDU on a taller site
        could be an
        issue.

        In any case I'd advise separate cables.  I know it seems
        wasteful, but you
        can have any tower dude climb up there and put the green plug
        into the green
        hole.  If you want the tower climber to strip and terminate
        DC cables then
        you'd have to be careful who you send up there. If you're
        dead set on a
        single power run then something with built in breakers is a
        good idea.
        Packetflux PDU would fit that bill.Â


        -----Original Message-----
        From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Nate Burke
        Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2022 11:48 AM
        To: Animal Farm <[email protected]>
        Subject: [AFMUG] Outdoor DC Distribution

        Mikrotik makes a nice outdoor fiber switch with a handfull of
        10G ports.
        Does anyone make something similar for DC Distribution?  Run
        a single power
        cable up a tower and DC to multiple radios?  I'm thinking
        like 3 or 4
        licensed radios each needing 2 wire DC input and 10G fiber.Â
Rather than running individual power wires for each one. I've used a UBNT
        Edgepoint S16, taking the 56v POE Output ports, and running
        them through the
        MCT GIGE-POE to extract 2wire power to run to the radio.Â
        But that's extra pieces needing a place to be mounted.

        Would the Site Monitor 5 channel PDU fit the bill?  IT says
        3A per channel,
        and 8A total.  So in theory that should be able to provide
        about 140w per
radio. Could put it in some sort of NEMA with a DIN mount. The Sitemonitor
        base is hardened, would the PDU be as well?

        Are there other options?

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