Looks like an oportunity to take the SiteMonitor 3 and PDU and build something for the tower top.
[cid:asset9_6087ff1a-e4b2-42dc-8e37-828fd52a1737.png]<https://aeronetpr.com> Gino Villarini Founder / President @GVillarini 787.273.4143 | [cid:asset7_7460a97c-d1f8-4aa7-a1db-f2a242ae25e4.png]<https://www.inc.com/profile/aeronet> [cid:asset4_90de6cc3-6a6e-42ea-8ee1-7c1c75ed1fba.png] <https://www.facebook.com/aeronetpr> [cid:asset1_8e2690da-eab4-4f70-bc52-aea656beff88.png] <https://www.instagram.com/aeronetpr/> [cid:asset2_348ee3e1-d43a-4c17-91c2-6c95ac766846.png] <https://www.linkedin.com/company/aeronet-broadband-corp> [cid:asset3_4a7ab080-a45e-48d4-a88f-2a02557e530f.png] <https://twitter.com/aeronetpr> [cid:asset5_cb8f047a-701e-4e36-9570-4e6e92f8689c.png] <https://www.youtube.com/user/AeroNetPR> <https://wa.me/17872734143> [cid:asset6@2x_f661ca1c-dcf6-4863-943b-1b6d991f4304.png] <https://wa.me/17872734144> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, PR 00968 <https://homefi.pr><https://homefi.pr>[cid:homefi2022emailsignaturebanner-80_d431b411-e0f5-4655-a8e5-bbef633515b1.jpg]<https://homefi.pr><https://homefi.pr> <https://homefi.pr> From: AF <[email protected]> on behalf of Forrest Christian (List Account) <[email protected]> Date: Monday, November 21, 2022 at 1:41 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor DC Distribution No, the maximum official size is 16AWG which is good for 12A. If you're looking at bringing it up the tower, I'd recommend using a transition terminal block that can handle whatever size wire you're bringing in, and then run a smaller one to the pdu. Bonus reliability points if you use ferrules on the 16AWG wire (assuming stranded wire here). And, yes, each of the 5 ports have fast overcurrent protection which will, in most cases, shut one port down and leave the others running. The "most cases" is the hedge which covers things like the power supply you're powering the whole thing from having faster overcurrent protection than ours. And cases where the short circuit causes enough of a power supply blip to cause everything else to reset due to the sudden voltage drop in the short period before the overcurrent protection kicks in. On Fri, Nov 18, 2022 at 8:46 AM Nate Burke <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Can the terminal block handle 12AWG wire? If one of the outputs shorts, does that take the entire PDU offline, or is there internal limiting with the 3A per port. On 11/18/2022 6:57 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: The packetflux base 3 is similar in the context of it having similar i/o possibilities.  The main difference is that the tycon product is fixed function, so as long as you can monitor exactly what you want with it, it will work for you.  If you want a different set of i/o then you're SOL. I also would caution anyone passing current through the tycon product to be mindful that the terminal blocks they use may not be able to handle what they specify as a maximum current on a continuous basis. Typically those types of connectors are rated at 12 or 15A and they say they can do 20A. I'm hopeful that they have bought special connectors to handle 20A, but even if they didn't they should be able to handle short periods of 20A. The packetflux Base 3 has evolved quite a bit from the early days, although there are still some limitations due to us wanting the current version to be drop in compatible with the previous version.  But some of the updates make this more useful at a wisp DC site.  For instance, the base 3 and most of the power distribution or injection models will handle both positive and negative power, at a much wider range than most units. So you can use both +24V and -48V to power it up at the same time. On Thu, Nov 17, 2022, 11:11 AM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Nice. Good price too. What does Forrest have that is similar?  From: Jason Wilson Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2022 10:34 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor DC Distribution  I'm just starting to use these for some VERY remote sites.  https://www.tyconsystems.com/tpdin-monitor-web3<https://www.tyconsystems.com/tpdin-monitor-web3> Jason Wilson Remotely Located Critical Infrastructure Service Provider Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places. 530-651-1736 530-748-9608 Cell www.remotelylocated.com<http://www.remotelylocated.com>  On Thu, Nov 17, 2022, 09:31 <[email protected]> wrote: I've used the PDU at the bottom of the tower. My only complaint at the time was the character limit on port description. I think it was 11 characters or some such....I had to come up with some cryptic abbreviations when I really wanted to say "Power to Telrad Compact 1000 - 270 azimuth". I think they were talking about fixing that in a future version of the base unit, but I haven't used any packetflux lately so I don't know if that's still an issue or not. If you're powering 100W radios then you'd be limited to 3 per PDU. A fourth radio would put you over the 8A total. That wasn't an issue in my deployment, but if you're planning 4+ sectors per tower then that's something to be aware of. Next problem is wire gauge. Anything bigger than 14ga is gonna have trouble squeezing into the connector on the packet flux PDU. Voltage drop on 48V /8A with 14ga is going to be pretty severe at 300ft, but if the tower is short then it's probably ok. I was deploying on 70ft poles, and we ran 16ga up to each radio so it was acceptable, but feeding the 8A input on the packetflux PDU on a taller site could be an issue. In any case I'd advise separate cables. I know it seems wasteful, but you can have any tower dude climb up there and put the green plug into the green hole. If you want the tower climber to strip and terminate DC cables then you'd have to be careful who you send up there. If you're dead set on a single power run then something with built in breakers is a good idea. Packetflux PDU would fit that bill. -----Original Message----- From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Nate Burke Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2022 11:48 AM To: Animal Farm <[email protected]> Subject: [AFMUG] Outdoor DC Distribution Mikrotik makes a nice outdoor fiber switch with a handfull of 10G ports. Does anyone make something similar for DC Distribution? Run a single power cable up a tower and DC to multiple radios? I'm thinking like 3 or 4 licensed radios each needing 2 wire DC input and 10G fiber. Rather than running individual power wires for each one. I've used a UBNT Edgepoint S16, taking the 56v POE Output ports, and running them through the MCT GIGE-POE to extract 2wire power to run to the radio. But that's extra pieces needing a place to be mounted. Would the Site Monitor 5 channel PDU fit the bill? IT says 3A per channel, and 8A total. So in theory that should be able to provide about 140w per radio. Could put it in some sort of NEMA with a DIN mount. The Sitemonitor base is hardened, would the PDU be as well? 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