Note it will do 125 to 250 on AC

On DC,  contact self welding can be a concern.  If the current is low I don’t 
think I would worry about 48 volts.

I learned this lesson the hard way once at a solar site.  I used regular Home 
Depot light switches on some 48 volt circuits.  Was not too long before none of 
the switches were good.  I think they shorted on.  But maybe they burned and 
were open.  In any event ruined for certain.  

Use that relay to trigger an external relay that is guaranteed to work.  

From: Nate Burke 
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2022 10:50 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor DC Distribution

That looks intriguing.  DC power on the relays says only up to 30V though.  And 
Would still require external fusing for each link?

I have a couple sites where I ran multiple fibers but only a single 12/3 to the 
top to power an Edgepoint that was powering AF11's.  I'm upgrading more sites 
from AF11 to Bigger radios, and am trying to minimize having to pull new 
cables.  At most sites it's easy enough to just pull new cables for each radio, 
but at some of the grain elevators, the cable path is quite convoluted, and the 
installers yell and complain about having to pull wires.  Interestingly, they 
also yelled and complained about wanting to pull spares initially.  

The Mikrotik NetFiber9 will give me the extra 10G ports on the existing fiber, 
can power it off the Edgepoint, so that part is easy.  Just need to figure out 
the power to the radios.  Aviat can do POE, but not the POE that the edgepoint 
outputs, so I run it through a double set of GIGE-POE, one to take the UBNT 56v 
and convert to 2 wire, then a 2nd to convert the 2wire into Aviat POE.  But at 
that site, I have a large NEMA on a nice platform, so everything is DIN mounted 
in that with lots of room.  



On 11/17/2022 11:34 AM, Jason Wilson wrote:

  I'm just starting to use these for some VERY remote sites.  

  https://www.tyconsystems.com/tpdin-monitor-web3


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  On Thu, Nov 17, 2022, 09:31 <[email protected]> wrote:

    I've used the PDU at the bottom of the tower.  My only complaint at the time
    was the character limit on port description.  I think it was 11 characters
    or some such....I had to come up with some cryptic abbreviations when I
    really wanted to say "Power to Telrad Compact 1000 - 270 azimuth".  I think
    they were talking about fixing that in a future version of the base unit,
    but I haven't used any packetflux lately so I don't know if that's still an
    issue or not.  If you're powering 100W radios then you'd be limited to 3 per
    PDU.  A fourth radio would put you over the 8A total.  That wasn't an issue
    in my deployment, but if you're planning 4+ sectors per tower then that's
    something to be aware of.  Next problem is wire gauge.  Anything bigger than
    14ga is gonna have trouble squeezing into the connector on the packet flux
    PDU.  Voltage drop on 48V /8A with 14ga is going to be pretty severe at
    300ft, but if the tower is short then it's probably ok.  I was deploying on
    70ft poles, and we ran 16ga up to each radio so it was acceptable, but
    feeding the 8A input on the packetflux PDU on a taller site could be an
    issue. 

    In any case I'd advise separate cables.  I know it seems wasteful, but you
    can have any tower dude climb up there and put the green plug into the green
    hole.  If you want the tower climber to strip and terminate DC cables then
    you'd have to be careful who you send up there.  If you're dead set on a
    single power run then something with built in breakers is a good idea.
    Packetflux PDU would fit that bill.  


    -----Original Message-----
    From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Nate Burke
    Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2022 11:48 AM
    To: Animal Farm <[email protected]>
    Subject: [AFMUG] Outdoor DC Distribution

    Mikrotik makes a nice outdoor fiber switch with a handfull of 10G ports.
    Does anyone make something similar for DC Distribution?  Run a single power
    cable up a tower and DC to multiple radios?  I'm thinking like 3 or 4
    licensed radios each needing 2 wire DC input and 10G fiber.  
    Rather than running individual power wires for each one.  I've used a UBNT
    Edgepoint S16, taking the 56v POE Output ports, and running them through the
    MCT GIGE-POE to extract 2wire power to run to the radio.  
    But that's extra pieces needing a place to be mounted.

    Would the Site Monitor 5 channel PDU fit the bill?  IT says 3A per channel,
    and 8A total.  So in theory that should be able to provide about 140w per
    radio.  Could put it in some sort of NEMA with a DIN mount.  The Sitemonitor
    base is hardened, would the PDU be as well?

    Are there other options?

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