You do have to offer it (I think that requirement is going away), but no on= e has to take you up on the offer, and the offer doesn't have to be reasona= ble.
-- Mike Hammett ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Jones" <[email protected]> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 2, 2025 12:10:38 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UPS for Internet equipment I thought there was some rule that you have to offer UPS if you sell VOIP, = youd think the market would be saturated with small power long runners in t= his space=20 On Thu, May 1, 2025 at 7:35 PM Ken Hohhof < [email protected] > wrote:=20 Most people have phones, tablets and laptops that are battery powered, as w= ell as security cameras like Ring and Blink. But unless they have a whole h= ome generator, their Internet stops working if their Internet equipment (ro= uter, modem, ONT, radio, gateway, etc.) doesn=E2=80=99t have power.=20 Have any of you found a UPS that fits this use case?=20 Everybody wants to sell you an 800 VA battery backup with 30 minutes of run= time. It=E2=80=99s the old paradigm of powering your desktop computer long = enough to save your work and shut it down. What we need is something that d= elivers 1/10 that much power for 10 times that long.=20 Yes, I realize a big part of the problem is the inefficiency of DC/AC conve= rsion especially at low power levels. And there have occasionally been DC b= attery backups for network equipment, usually for a specific model of CPE. = But we are often faced with a radio that wants 24-30 or 48-56 VDC, and a Wi= Fi router that wants 5 or 12 VDC.=20 If this was for our own use, I could build something with some DIN rail ele= ctronics and a battery, but it wouldn=E2=80=99t be UL approved or appropria= te for a customer to use in their home.=20 People these days get alerted on their phone because their doorbell camera = is offline, and they call their ISP rather than check for power outages. If= they had a UPS for their Internet equipment, they would get an alert that = their POWER was off. Ideally it would run for 8 hours which seems to be a t= ypical restoral time for power companies. But I guess even with a couple ho= urs they would at least know why their security camera is offline. And if t= hey are home they continue doing stuff online for awhile and start planning= where to go for public WiFi if the power outage lasts longer than their ba= ttery runtime. --=20 AF mailing list=20 [email protected]=20 http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com=20 --=20 AF mailing list [email protected] http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list [email protected] http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
