I think he’s referring to an FCC rule. 8 and 24 hour options. I think it may only apply to infrastructure based providers, not OTT VoIP providers like Ooma and Vonage.
https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-18-1205A1_Rcd.pdf From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Friday, May 2, 2025 10:57 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UPS for Internet equipment Not a requirement for most purposes, but there are certain things like fire alarms, elevator phones, and other life-safety uses where building code requires that any electronics which the phone line is dependent on have so many hours of backup power….i think 8 hours. When that code was written, the issue would have been PBX’s, but it would apply to ATA’s as well. I used to tell people get a POTS line for that and the telco has you covered. If they don’t listen to me it’s not my fault. I wouldn’t provide the backup power for it because then it would fall on me to maintain the batteries to keep them compliant. They need to handle that themselves. I’m referring to the building code in my own city, and i don’t know if that’s their own rule or something adopted from ICC. It’s a sensible rule regardless, and property owners should be doing that even if it isnt a rule in their locality. Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> _____ From: AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > on behalf of Steve Jones <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, May 2, 2025 1:10:38 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UPS for Internet equipment I thought there was some rule that you have to offer UPS if you sell VOIP, youd think the market would be saturated with small power long runners in this space On Thu, May 1, 2025 at 7:35 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Most people have phones, tablets and laptops that are battery powered, as well as security cameras like Ring and Blink. But unless they have a whole home generator, their Internet stops working if their Internet equipment (router, modem, ONT, radio, gateway, etc.) doesn’t have power. Have any of you found a UPS that fits this use case? Everybody wants to sell you an 800 VA battery backup with 30 minutes of runtime. It’s the old paradigm of powering your desktop computer long enough to save your work and shut it down. What we need is something that delivers 1/10 that much power for 10 times that long. Yes, I realize a big part of the problem is the inefficiency of DC/AC conversion especially at low power levels. And there have occasionally been DC battery backups for network equipment, usually for a specific model of CPE. But we are often faced with a radio that wants 24-30 or 48-56 VDC, and a WiFi router that wants 5 or 12 VDC. If this was for our own use, I could build something with some DIN rail electronics and a battery, but it wouldn’t be UL approved or appropriate for a customer to use in their home. People these days get alerted on their phone because their doorbell camera is offline, and they call their ISP rather than check for power outages. If they had a UPS for their Internet equipment, they would get an alert that their POWER was off. Ideally it would run for 8 hours which seems to be a typical restoral time for power companies. But I guess even with a couple hours they would at least know why their security camera is offline. And if they are home they continue doing stuff online for awhile and start planning where to go for public WiFi if the power outage lasts longer than their battery runtime. -- AF mailing list [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
-- AF mailing list [email protected] http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
