I'm testing the ESPI box. Very small 12v lithium unit. 12v output with DC barrels, and POE capability (24v or 48v passive only i think)
On Fri, May 2, 2025 at 8:23 AM Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: > You do have to offer it (I think that requirement is going away), but no > on= > e has to take you up on the offer, and the offer doesn't have to be > reasona= > ble. > > > > > -- > Mike Hammett > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Jones" <[email protected]> > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, May 2, 2025 12:10:38 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UPS for Internet equipment > > > > I thought there was some rule that you have to offer UPS if you sell VOIP, > = > youd think the market would be saturated with small power long runners in > t= > his space=20 > > > On Thu, May 1, 2025 at 7:35 PM Ken Hohhof < [email protected] > wrote:=20 > > > > > > > > Most people have phones, tablets and laptops that are battery powered, as > w= > ell as security cameras like Ring and Blink. But unless they have a whole > h= > ome generator, their Internet stops working if their Internet equipment > (ro= > uter, modem, ONT, radio, gateway, etc.) doesn=E2=80=99t have power.=20 > > > > Have any of you found a UPS that fits this use case?=20 > > > > Everybody wants to sell you an 800 VA battery backup with 30 minutes of > run= > time. It=E2=80=99s the old paradigm of powering your desktop computer long > = > enough to save your work and shut it down. What we need is something that > d= > elivers 1/10 that much power for 10 times that long.=20 > > > > Yes, I realize a big part of the problem is the inefficiency of DC/AC > conve= > rsion especially at low power levels. And there have occasionally been DC > b= > attery backups for network equipment, usually for a specific model of CPE. > = > But we are often faced with a radio that wants 24-30 or 48-56 VDC, and a > Wi= > Fi router that wants 5 or 12 VDC.=20 > > > > If this was for our own use, I could build something with some DIN rail > ele= > ctronics and a battery, but it wouldn=E2=80=99t be UL approved or > appropria= > te for a customer to use in their home.=20 > > > > People these days get alerted on their phone because their doorbell camera > = > is offline, and they call their ISP rather than check for power outages. > If= > they had a UPS for their Internet equipment, they would get an alert that > = > their POWER was off. Ideally it would run for 8 hours which seems to be a > t= > ypical restoral time for power companies. But I guess even with a couple > ho= > urs they would at least know why their security camera is offline. And if > t= > hey are home they continue doing stuff online for awhile and start > planning= > where to go for public WiFi if the power outage lasts longer than their > ba= > ttery runtime. --=20 > AF mailing list=20 > [email protected]=20 > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com=20 > > --=20 > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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