A bit OT, but my curiosity spidey sense is tingling.
I have noticed of late that their (Comcast) advertising uses the name
Comcast instead of Xfinity.
The story back when was they were rebranding to Xfinity because Comcast had
such a bad customer reputation.
Perhaps they've damaged the Xfinity brand enough that they're switching
back to Comcast?
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On Fri, May 2, 2025 at 3:44 PM Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:
> Comcast customer service rep didn't know enough to tell them not to buy
> it.
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> *From:* AF <[email protected]> on behalf of Nate Burke <
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> *Sent:* Friday, May 2, 2025 6:12 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>; Chuck McCown <
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> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] UPS for Internet equipment
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>
> I've been in several commercial buildings with Comcast phones for their
> elevators. Coming out of just a regular cable modem, no Battery backup.
> One of them had a bad circuit breaker, and our equipment was on the same
> circuit as that modem. Building had no clue that their elevator phones
> were down.
> On 5/2/2025 5:03 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> Used to be there were public utility regulations and FCC, I think
> regulations that required 8 hour minimum for POTS.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
> Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
> *Sent:* Friday, May 2, 2025 9:57 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] UPS for Internet equipment
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>
> Not a requirement for most purposes, but there are certain things like
> fire alarms, elevator phones, and other life-safety uses where building
> code requires that any electronics which the phone line is dependent on
> have so many hours of backup power….i think 8 hours. When that code was
> written, the issue would have been PBX’s, but it would apply to ATA’s as
> well. I used to tell people get a POTS line for that and the telco has you
> covered. If they don’t listen to me it’s not my fault. I wouldn’t provide
> the backup power for it because then it would fall on me to maintain the
> batteries to keep them compliant. They need to handle that themselves.
>
>
>
> I’m referring to the building code in my own city, and i don’t know if
> that’s their own rule or something adopted from ICC. It’s a sensible rule
> regardless, and property owners should be doing that even if it isnt a rule
> in their locality.
>
>
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> *From:* AF <[email protected]> on behalf of Steve Jones <
> [email protected]>
> *Sent:* Friday, May 2, 2025 1:10:38 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] UPS for Internet equipment
>
>
>
> I thought there was some rule that you have to offer UPS if you sell VOIP,
> youd think the market would be saturated with small power long runners in
> this space
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 1, 2025 at 7:35 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Most people have phones, tablets and laptops that are battery powered, as
> well as security cameras like Ring and Blink. But unless they have a whole
> home generator, their Internet stops working if their Internet equipment
> (router, modem, ONT, radio, gateway, etc.) doesn’t have power.
>
>
>
> Have any of you found a UPS that fits this use case?
>
>
>
> Everybody wants to sell you an 800 VA battery backup with 30 minutes of
> runtime. It’s the old paradigm of powering your desktop computer long
> enough to save your work and shut it down. What we need is something that
> delivers 1/10 that much power for 10 times that long.
>
>
>
> Yes, I realize a big part of the problem is the inefficiency of DC/AC
> conversion especially at low power levels. And there have occasionally
> been DC battery backups for network equipment, usually for a specific model
> of CPE. But we are often faced with a radio that wants 24-30 or 48-56 VDC,
> and a WiFi router that wants 5 or 12 VDC.
>
>
>
> If this was for our own use, I could build something with some DIN rail
> electronics and a battery, but it wouldn’t be UL approved or appropriate
> for a customer to use in their home.
>
>
>
> People these days get alerted on their phone because their doorbell camera
> is offline, and they call their ISP rather than check for power outages.
> If they had a UPS for their Internet equipment, they would get an alert
> that their POWER was off. Ideally it would run for 8 hours which seems to
> be a typical restoral time for power companies. But I guess even with a
> couple hours they would at least know why their security camera is
> offline. And if they are home they continue doing stuff online for awhile
> and start planning where to go for public WiFi if the power outage lasts
> longer than their battery runtime.
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