Sometimes people like this are the canary in the coal mine that helps you find 
a genuine problem.  More often (especially with gamers) they are just a pain in 
the butt.  If you’ve diligently tried to solve his problem with no success (and 
other customers aren’t reporting similar problems), tell him that, and nudge 
him toward finding another provider.  You can’t please all of the people all of 
the time.  Maybe refund his last month if he switches, but don’t fall into the 
trap of keeping him as a customer but constantly giving him refunds.

 

My perspective is a little different in that I’m not in fiber.  I did have one 
“professional gamer” switch to Starlink.  Lots of people are getting TMHI or 
VZHI.  Do you have a cable Internet option in your area?

 

A big reason for the success or 5G Home Internet (as well as Starlink) is that 
while they are best effort services, they are month-to-month.  Their view is we 
don’t have to solve everyone’s problems because you can just return the box and 
switch to a different provider.  People seem to love that arrangement.  Do you 
have this customer tied into a term contract or something?  If you do, let him 
out of the contract.

 

One thing I worry about with BEAD is that it will create broadband monopolies 
in rural areas.  I’m used to people now having 5 or 6 different broadband 
options, even in the boonies.  And they certainly are not shy about exercising 
those options.  But if circumstances make you the only game in town, then you 
maybe have an obligation to try harder to fix everyone’s problems.  It’s like 
my early days as a WISP, if we couldn’t get someone service, they were stuck on 
dialup.  It’s not like that anymore.  Cable, fiber, multiple WISPs, 5G FWA, 
satellite, LEO.  People switch just on a whim, “I was at the cellphone store 
and they had this new thing so I decided to try it”.  The gamer I had who 
switched to Starlink probably felt it was expensive and therefore the best, 
besides it was Elon.  In any case, it’s not like he has come crawling back, so 
apparently you can be a professional gamer and stream on Twitch using Starlink. 
 They also have business/priority plans at a higher cost.

 

Gamers in general tend to be problems.  They speak a different language and 
they’re never happy.  At least the problem of gamers pissing off other gamers 
who retaliate using a “booter” site seems to have abated.

 

From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Zach Underwood
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2025 8:25 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What to do with professional Gamer

 

My understanding is that they are shutting down  Amazon IVS and moving all of 
twitch up under the main amazon ASN. 

 

On Fri, Jun 13, 2025 at 9:04 AM Mike Hammett <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

Are you really buying Sparkle transit?

https://radar.qrator.net/as/16803/connectivity/neighbors/providers

It is important for ISPs to do what they can to mitigate issues their customers 
have, regardless if the problem happens on your network or not. That said, the 
cost of mitigating the issue may exceed the value provided from doing so.

Is the problem with the stream to Twitch, or is the problem with other aspects 
of his experience? Interestingly, Twitch (Amazon IVS) isn't on any IXes in 
Florida. I thought they'd be on FL-IX.  https://www.peeringdb.com/net/1956

Does anyone else on your network have Twitch issues? Can you replicate his 
Twitch issue? What "issue" is he having?




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To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
Cc: "Mark - Myakka Technologies" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2025 6:46:10 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] What to do with professional Gamer

We have a professional gamer/streamer as a customer.  I get calls from him on a 
regular basis that he is having network issues.  It has gotten to the point 
where I just don't call him back.  I don't have the time or desire to try to 
track down why his twich feed randomly has an issue.  Usually it is during the 
day being this is his "Job", so the load on the network is very light.  I have 
no doubt that he is having issues and I have explained that our system is a 
small part of the Internet and there could be issues that I have no control 
over or can diagnose.  Not to mention general issues that he may have with his 
equipment. 


We are up to 4000 customers on our fiber network, so I'm sure there are others 
streaming and gaming on a regular basis that I never hear from.  It just seems 
to be this one guy busting my balls every few weeks.

Anyone have any better way of handling this.  It is getting to the point I may 
go all out "Steve" on him.

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Myakka Communications
www.Myakka.com <http://www.Myakka.com> 

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