Well, if they're not qualified that is a whole different kettle of fish.
Not to say they can't become qualified.
bp
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On 9/20/2025 12:51 PM, [email protected] wrote:
But United mandated for new hires that half be women or black or
both. The only way to do that was to lower standards. That was the
whole point. There are not a bunch of new pilots with the 5000
normally needed to get the first officer stripes. While an ATP rating
can be obtained at 1500 hours, only local regionals will hire them.
In order to get the applicants the United DEI policy mandated, they
were going to have to take those with fewer hours and perhaps non
college grads. They have since walked this back and only say now that
the only criteria on hiring will be merit. I would not want a cockpit
full of 1500 hour pilots on a 777 international flight.
/What Kirk started with was flawed. He stated that United wanted to
have 50% of their pilots be minorities. That's not what United was
saying. What they were saying was they wanted to increase _hiring_ of
minorities to get them up to a more representative portion of their
actual pilots (i.e. not 50% of the total). You need to read the
percentages correctly./
bp
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On 9/20/2025 12:17 PM, [email protected] wrote:
I wish you would discuss that one Kirk issue I sent you the link
on. I want to know why people think he is so bad in stating an
obvious statistical fact. If you have been mandated to get more
items from a limited pool of varying quality, you are going to
have to take lower quality items if you need to meet a quota.
How is that so hard to understand. Then if your customers know
that your are now having to lower your standards to meet the
quota, why would they be condemned for being curious about the
quality your products now.
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Right. I listened to a segment on NPR this morning, and the person
they had was examining what, if any, ideology the shooter had, and
he seemed very base, and not really aligned left or right, but
looking somehow to make a name for himself.
Kirk, OTOH, was mainly a conflict entrepreneur. Good debater, even
if I disagree with most of his arguments.
bp
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On 9/20/2025 11:16 AM, [email protected] wrote:
OK, I presumed he meant Kirk was not a deep thinker. I find
most of his content to be cogent.
The shooter... no deep thoughts there.
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Chuck, I'm pretty sure Bill meant the shooter was not a deep
thinker and just wanted his name in the headlines. I don't
think he was taking shots at Kirk with that comment.
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I think it is pretty bad to vilify and judge someone that you
don't know. Kirk said harsh and provocative things. But they
were well reasoned and thought out. For example the "Black
Pilots" issue that is tossed around so much. The critics have
not taken the time to listen to the whole argument. I agree
with his argument. Not a racial thing, it is simple stats.
Watch it and tell me how this is a racist comment. Tell me
how he is wrong?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBiiQY0Rgpg
-----Original Message-----
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I believe Chuck thinks you mean Charlie Kirk when you say "the
guy", as opposed to the guy who shot him.
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I have never watched anything from him. At all.
Like I said, I did not know he existed before last week.
bp
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On 9/20/2025 10:07 AM, Chuck wrote:
Apparently you have not watched much of his debate work.
Especially
at Oxford Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 20, 2025, at 10:53 AM, Bill Prince<[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
I disagree with that statement.
Before Kirk was shot, I'd never heard his name.
I didn't attempt to find out what he did until a day
or two after he was declared dead.
Next thing I heard was that the guy they arrested came
from a conservative (possibly MAGA) family. That was
not certain.
The more we hear about the guy, the more he seems like
he was a-political, and did not conform to either
right or left labels.
He is certainly not a deep thinker. I think he just
wanted to see his name in the headlines. Meme-centric
point of view.
bp
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On 9/20/2025 8:59 AM, Cameron Crum wrote:
Desperately trying? By the time he said this,
everyone knew the kid wasn't MAGA and the opposite
was true. It was a blatant lie to smear people on
the right and everyone knows it. Otherwise, he'd
still have a job.
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