But they are making money from the conflict.

That's my point, and I'm sticking with it.

bp
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On 9/20/2025 12:53 PM, [email protected] wrote:
I see it differently, they are presenting harsh truths.  Speaking common sense. 
 Helping young people to understand there are best practices for living a happy 
and productive life.


-----Original Message-----
From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2025 1:31 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT? Carr and Kimmel and "jawboning"

They're making money hand over fist. Conflict entrepreneurs.

bp
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On 9/20/2025 12:24 PM, [email protected] wrote:
Since the assassination, the Kirk's group has received more than 62,000 new 
requests for high school and college chapters.

It had 3,500 two weeks ago.

-----Original Message-----
From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2025 1:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT? Carr and Kimmel and "jawboning"

Right. I listened to a segment on NPR this morning, and the person they had was 
examining what, if any, ideology the shooter had, and he seemed very base, and 
not really aligned left or right, but looking somehow to make a name for 
himself.

Kirk, OTOH, was mainly a conflict entrepreneur. Good debater, even if I 
disagree with most of his arguments.

bp
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On 9/20/2025 11:16 AM, [email protected] wrote:
OK, I presumed he meant Kirk was not a deep thinker.  I find most of his 
content to be cogent.
The shooter... no deep thoughts there.


-----Original Message-----
From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2025 12:14 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT? Carr and Kimmel and "jawboning"

Chuck, I'm pretty sure Bill meant the shooter was not a deep thinker and just 
wanted his name in the headlines.  I don't think he was taking shots at Kirk 
with that comment.


-----Original Message-----
From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2025 12:59 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT? Carr and Kimmel and "jawboning"

I think it is pretty bad to vilify and judge someone that you don't know.  Kirk said 
harsh and provocative things.  But they were well reasoned and thought out.  For example 
the "Black Pilots" issue that is tossed around so much.  The critics have not 
taken the time to listen to the whole argument.  I agree with his argument.  Not a racial 
thing, it is simple stats.

Watch it and tell me how this is a racist comment.  Tell me how he is wrong?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBiiQY0Rgpg


-----Original Message-----
From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2025 11:52 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT? Carr and Kimmel and "jawboning"

I believe Chuck thinks you mean Charlie Kirk when you say "the guy", as opposed 
to the guy who shot him.

-----Original Message-----
From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2025 12:29 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT? Carr and Kimmel and "jawboning"

I have never watched anything from him. At all.

Like I said, I did not know he existed before last week.


bp
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On 9/20/2025 10:07 AM, Chuck wrote:
Apparently you have not watched much of his debate work.  Especially
at Oxford Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 20, 2025, at 10:53 AM, Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote:

I disagree with that statement.

Before Kirk was shot, I'd never heard his name.

I didn't attempt to find out what he did until a day or two after he was 
declared dead.

Next thing I heard was that the guy they arrested came from a conservative 
(possibly MAGA) family. That was not certain.

The more we hear about the guy, the more he seems like he was a-political, and 
did not conform to either right or left labels.

He is certainly not a deep thinker. I think he just wanted to see his name in 
the headlines. Meme-centric point of view.


bp
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On 9/20/2025 8:59 AM, Cameron Crum wrote:
Desperately trying? By the time he said this, everyone knew the kid wasn't MAGA 
and the opposite was true. It was a blatant lie to smear people on the right 
and everyone knows it. Otherwise, he'd still have a job.
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