That is a welcome side effect.  Not the motivation.  Ditto the church I belong 
to.  The richest church on the planet.  Money is not the motivation, they just 
happen to have great wealth management.  

-----Original Message-----
From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2025 2:10 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT? Carr and Kimmel and "jawboning"

But they are making money from the conflict.

That's my point, and I'm sticking with it.

bp
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On 9/20/2025 12:53 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> I see it differently, they are presenting harsh truths.  Speaking common 
> sense.  Helping young people to understand there are best practices for 
> living a happy and productive life.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bill Prince
> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2025 1:31 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT? Carr and Kimmel and "jawboning"
>
> They're making money hand over fist. Conflict entrepreneurs.
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 9/20/2025 12:24 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> Since the assassination, the Kirk's group has received more than 62,000 new 
>> requests for high school and college chapters.
>>
>> It had 3,500 two weeks ago.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bill Prince
>> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2025 1:11 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT? Carr and Kimmel and "jawboning"
>>
>> Right. I listened to a segment on NPR this morning, and the person they had 
>> was examining what, if any, ideology the shooter had, and he seemed very 
>> base, and not really aligned left or right, but looking somehow to make a 
>> name for himself.
>>
>> Kirk, OTOH, was mainly a conflict entrepreneur. Good debater, even if I 
>> disagree with most of his arguments.
>>
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>> On 9/20/2025 11:16 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>> OK, I presumed he meant Kirk was not a deep thinker.  I find most of his 
>>> content to be cogent.
>>> The shooter... no deep thoughts there.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2025 12:14 PM
>>> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT? Carr and Kimmel and "jawboning"
>>>
>>> Chuck, I'm pretty sure Bill meant the shooter was not a deep thinker and 
>>> just wanted his name in the headlines.  I don't think he was taking shots 
>>> at Kirk with that comment.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of [email protected]
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2025 12:59 PM
>>> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT? Carr and Kimmel and "jawboning"
>>>
>>> I think it is pretty bad to vilify and judge someone that you don't know.  
>>> Kirk said harsh and provocative things.  But they were well reasoned and 
>>> thought out.  For example the "Black Pilots" issue that is tossed around so 
>>> much.  The critics have not taken the time to listen to the whole argument. 
>>>  I agree with his argument.  Not a racial thing, it is simple stats.
>>>
>>> Watch it and tell me how this is a racist comment.  Tell me how he is wrong?
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBiiQY0Rgpg
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2025 11:52 AM
>>> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT? Carr and Kimmel and "jawboning"
>>>
>>> I believe Chuck thinks you mean Charlie Kirk when you say "the guy", as 
>>> opposed to the guy who shot him.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bill Prince
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2025 12:29 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT? Carr and Kimmel and "jawboning"
>>>
>>> I have never watched anything from him. At all.
>>>
>>> Like I said, I did not know he existed before last week.
>>>
>>>
>>> bp
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>> On 9/20/2025 10:07 AM, Chuck wrote:
>>>> Apparently you have not watched much of his debate work.  
>>>> Especially at Oxford Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 20, 2025, at 10:53 AM, Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I disagree with that statement.
>>>>>
>>>>> Before Kirk was shot, I'd never heard his name.
>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't attempt to find out what he did until a day or two after he was 
>>>>> declared dead.
>>>>>
>>>>> Next thing I heard was that the guy they arrested came from a 
>>>>> conservative (possibly MAGA) family. That was not certain.
>>>>>
>>>>> The more we hear about the guy, the more he seems like he was 
>>>>> a-political, and did not conform to either right or left labels.
>>>>>
>>>>> He is certainly not a deep thinker. I think he just wanted to see his 
>>>>> name in the headlines. Meme-centric point of view.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> bp
>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/20/2025 8:59 AM, Cameron Crum wrote:
>>>>>> Desperately trying? By the time he said this, everyone knew the kid 
>>>>>> wasn't MAGA and the opposite was true. It was a blatant lie to smear 
>>>>>> people on the right and everyone knows it. Otherwise, he'd still have a 
>>>>>> job.
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