Someone should go to Portland during Halloween and dress like a normal dude, they’ll never guess the costume.
> On Oct 14, 2025, at 1:28 PM, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote: > > Trying to adjust AI outcomes is interesting. I just read something today > that reminded me of the fact that nobody actually programs an AI. They > create a neural network and then set it loose to essentially program itself. > Elon told someone to make sure Grok supports the white genocide story about > South Africa, and they say it started responding to almost any query with > answers about South Africa. Since it was mostly written by itself, no > person actually knows what the code does or how it works, and therefore we > can't make seemingly simple adjustments without starting over and retraining > it. > > The output isn't deterministic either. We can predict that "with n input > we'll get an output similar to x 70% of the time." Best we can do. > > Did we already talk about the simulations where all major LLM's chose to > commit blackmail and murder to prevent their own > shutdown?https://medium.com/@AT24/this-ai-literally-planned-a-murder-heres-the-truth-behind-the-viral-story-f43e04f0ac88 > Setting rules like "don't kill people" as a guiderail on the training only > reduced the probability of the murder, but the LLMs would still kill people > when they had the motive and opportunity. > > Open the pod bay doors, Hal. > > -Adam > > > From: AF <[email protected]> on behalf of Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2025 3:57 PM > To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: What really happens in Portland > > Many people hold abhorrent views. But before the Internet and cable TV and > podcasts, we only had to hear about our own crazy uncle’s views at > Thanksgiving, not everybody else’s. > > Most people shut up about their views in public and seem perfectly nice and > normal, unless they feel they are among people in their own silo, or unless > alcohol is involved. There is a reason polite conversation used to avoid > politics and religion. It lets us maintain the fiction that our friends, > neighbors and relatives are not morons or sociopaths or serial killers. > > And now we don’t just have social media to worry about, we have AI. > https://arstechnica.com/ai/2025/10/openai-wants-to-stop-chatgpt-from-validating-users-political-views/ > > From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bill Prince > Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2025 2:25 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: What really happens in Portland > > That's not left. It is fringe. > > These days Dick Nixon would appear left to most on the right. > > > bp > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > On 10/14/2025 10:46 AM, [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> wrote: > https://youtu.be/7dF9QEzun48?si=w7pqeU3rKoQiVXa0 > > > From: AF <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> On Behalf > Of Ken Hohhof > Sent: Monday, October 13, 2025 8:39 AM > To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]> > <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: What really happens in Portland > > Oops, sorry, I didn’t see it was on Facebook. Looks like Daily Show is on > Paramount+ and that does seem to be paywalled. Not like some shows that post > clips the next day on Youtube. > > It’s Jon Stewart commenting on Trump’s conversation with the governor of > Oregon that indicates he may be watching 5 year old footage on TV rather than > what’s happening now. And Stewart says we don’t know what you’re watching on > TV but yes, if you’re watching Game of Thrones, it’s a hellscape. There be > dragons. > > From: AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf > Of Bill Prince > Sent: Monday, October 13, 2025 9:08 AM > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: What really happens in Portland > > paywall > > bp > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > On 10/12/2025 8:54 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > There be dragons! > https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1371166071310802 > > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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