Some people feel that the left has gotten leftier and other people feel that 
the right has gotten rightier.  It's interesting that they both say their 
position is still the same, and it's the other guys that have gotten crazier.

I think the real story is that the more extreme people have always been more 
vocal, and social media gives them a place to be heard.  It used to be they'd 
ramble at you in the office breakroom, and you'd just smile and nod and walk 
away.  Now they can barf memes onto the Internet.  More extreme positions get 
more reactions --positive and negative ones.  People will write comments.  
Positive and negative reactions and comments are all proof that eyeballs are 
engaged and therefore that post is good for advertisers and therefore 
algorithms will spread it further.

A reasonable, nuanced position is not engaging.  It won't get anyone excited or 
agitated, and therefore it won't spread on the Internet.

TV News has a similar issue.  The money comes from advertising so there has to 
be some excitement to keep the eyeballs on it.  Cable news has the same 
incentive, but also no FCC rules to tell them they can't say a bunch of made up 
BS.  ....so, they can and do say made up BS.

Social media has the same perverse incentive, a lower barrier to entry, and 
even fewer consequences.

Ultimately, I think it's partly an illusion caused by extreme voices being 
amplified, and it's partly that all this amplification of crazy is actually 
making people crazier.  It doesn't help that there are multiple sets of facts 
going around.  We really do need to figure out how to reign in the Internet 
before it destroys us.  I have some crazy ideas about that, but I don't think 
it's a discussion anyone is willing to have because we're getting dopamine hits 
from pressing the like button on crazy bullshit, and we can't give that up.

-Adam




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From: AF <[email protected]> on behalf of Steve Jones 
<[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2025 2:35 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: What really happens in Portland

sad thing about it is that guy used to be an extreme outlier, but now hes the 
leftist norm. hell, half the left probably says "OK boomer" to him because hes 
not woke enough

On Tue, Oct 14, 2025 at 12:47 PM <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
wrote:

https://youtu.be/7dF9QEzun48?si=w7pqeU3rKoQiVXa0





From: AF <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of 
Ken Hohhof
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2025 8:39 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: What really happens in Portland



Oops, sorry, I didn’t see it was on Facebook.  Looks like Daily Show is on 
Paramount+ and that does seem to be paywalled.  Not like some shows that post 
clips the next day on Youtube.



It’s Jon Stewart commenting on Trump’s conversation with the governor of Oregon 
that indicates he may be watching 5 year old footage on TV rather than what’s 
happening now.  And Stewart says we don’t know what you’re watching on TV but 
yes, if you’re watching Game of Thrones, it’s a hellscape.  There be dragons.



From: AF <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of 
Bill Prince
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2025 9:08 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: What really happens in Portland



paywall

bp

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On 10/12/2025 8:54 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

There be dragons!

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1371166071310802

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