Rotflmao On Sat, Oct 25, 2025, 7:03 PM Jan-GAMs <[email protected]> wrote:
> None of the photos I've seen of these boats being destroyed with people on > them have shown anything that could be remotely divined as a "bundle" of > drugs. These boats are the means for people to travel to the islands. > Commuters are being murdered. I hope these bastards doing the killing are > going to get hunted down by the ICC and made very sorry. > On 10/22/25 14:23, Adam Moffett wrote: > > Yes, and that's the primary argument against this practice. If we have > solid intel that they're carrying drugs, and we know where they are, then > as soon as they enter our territorial waters we can board the boat and > arrest them. The Coast Guard doesn't need a warrant or even a specific > reason to board a boat. Some of those boats are faster than Cutters, but I > don't have solid info on how often they actually escape when they're > already being tracked. It's hard to imagine they really get away often > because the Coast Guard also has helicopters, and they're allowed to > continue a pursuit into international waters (and onto land) as long as the > pursuit started in US waters. > > Regardless of how often they really get away, it's not normal to blow up > someone's boat as a law enforcement action. We also don't execute drug > traffickers, and even when the state executes someone there's a trial > first. > > but..... > > - post-911 we treat foreign terrorist organizations as enemy combatants > - the executive branch gets to decide who counts as an FTO. The sec > of state, sec of treasury, and attorney general all have to agree, but they > also all have the same boss. > - Nobody can really stop the executive branch from declaring an FTO. > - Congress could pass a bill to override someone's listing as an FTO, > but to date they've never done it. > - The courts could overturn an FTO listing, but for a lot of > reasons it's almost impossible. > > > > So effectively the President and/or their cabinet has a completely legal > pathway to authorize military force against just about anyone, and there's > very little anyone can do about it. It's not that I have sympathy for drug > smugglers, it's that all we can do is take someone's word for it that it > was a drug smuggler. If anyone is totally comfortable with that then I'm > curious what your rationale is. > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* AF <[email protected]> <[email protected]> on behalf > of Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2025 3:00 PM > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]> > <[email protected]> > *Subject:* [AFMUG] now we're blowing up boats in the Pacific > > *https://x.com/SecWar/status/1981049943306752361 > <https://x.com/SecWar/status/1981049943306752361>* > > > > I thought the Coast Guard was able to intercept boats and board them, > arrest people and confiscate cargo. I seem to remember they specifically > acquired high speed boats that were a match for anything a drug runner > might have. > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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