DLink is dead to me, after all the serious security vulnerabilities and their refusal to patch them. I remember the DIR-615 router. Had to disable the “QoS Engine” feature or upstream would suck. And UPnP accessible from the WAN side. Go ahead, world, reconfigure my router. Or just use port 1900 for an amplification attack. I think the govt even sued them over some of the security issues.
From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Nate Burke Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2025 9:31 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] price war Yes, D-Link media converter. You know the little grey box with a wall wart. It's usually just thrown on a shelf in the customers broom closet. I couldn't believe it was an AT&T connection either when I saw it. But AT&T had used our multi-strand from the telco room to the customer suite, and pinched our fiber while they were plugging in theirs, so I was there troubleshooting why the internet was down. Then the customer cancelled a week later because AT&T was so much cheaper. On 12/11/2025 1:43 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: I'm sorry.....did you say "D-Link Media Converter"? I remember years ago joking that Ubiquiti wasn't "carrier grade" because you'd never see an Air Grid at an AT&T wireless site. Maybe carrier grade is a sliding scale. _____ From: AF <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]> on behalf of Nate Burke <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 8, 2025 11:32 PM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] price war We've been fighting a fiber price war for a while. Around us, in most AT&T Lit buildings, at&t is selling 1G business service for <$50. They have a Cienna switch in the Telco room fed with 1-4 1G fibers, and a plain D-Link Media Converter in the customer suite. So not enterprise level, but it's still cheap, and the Small Office guy is going to get that because it's cheap and it's fiber. They probably throw in a free cellphone too. On 12/8/2025 10:05 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I lost a customer today to $30 AT&T 5G Home Internet. Starlink has 100 Mbps at $40 with $0 equipment, and that is without competition yet from Amazon Leo. All the companies looking to deploy BEAD fiber, I’m guessing they are counting on around $55 for their base tier, and something like 80% take rate. But it looks like we are already into a price war. Are they going to be disappointed at the revenue? We could say the price war will end and prices will rise, but how will that happen unless some of the competitors drop out or consolidate? In the case of the big 3 mobile carriers, that’s not going to happen (although DISH is probably a goner). They could become less aggressive about FWA pricing though if they use up all their excess 5G capacity and don’t get more spectrum. Yeah, right. Convince me I’m wrong.
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