You apparently didn't try to buy Calix when they decided to do a ERP conversion and couldn’t produce or ship for a good 6 months. Or during and a few years after Covid. It works, but you are paying top dollar and Calix intends to keep as much of the ARPU of your customers as they can. I will say they are very upfront about that.
Mark > On Dec 14, 2025, at 9:17 AM, Chuck <[email protected]> wrote: > > I have built 3 different companies using Calix and have had no problems like > you describe below. Xgs in an E7 shelf is pretty high density. And you dont > have to pay monthly if you dont want their managed router solution. Never > had a problem getting equipment. > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 14, 2025, at 5:55 AM, Mark Radabaugh <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Calix lost me when I needed higher density hardware and all they ever >> wanted to talk about was how they were a cloud service company and look at >> all our shiny toys you can pay us monthly for. Yeah - what about actually >> hooking up customers? Oh, if you give us a two year forecast of what you >> want to buy we will hook you up - just don’t count on them actually having >> the equipment when you need it. >> >> Mark >> >>> On Dec 13, 2025, at 7:27 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies via AF >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Ken, >>> >>> >>> We use them. First of all their HW just works and works well. They may >>> seem to be expensive on the MRC, but they bring a bunch of other services >>> to the table. They will help with marketing, network engineering, etc. >>> The support is VERY responsive and the amount of data collected in the >>> service cloud is unbelievable. >>> >>> >>> >>> This is all they do, managed routers and fiber distribution. They have to >>> be top notch to survive. >>> >>> >>> They fit into our business model, but each business if different. >>> >>> >>> I would say give them a chance to give you a proposal. See what they bring >>> to the table. Maybe it is a fit, maybe not. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Mark mailto:[email protected] >>> >>> >>> >>> Myakka Communications >>> >>> www.Myakka.com <https://www.myakka.com/> >>> >>> ------ >>> >>> >>> >>> Saturday, December 13, 2025, 1:51:56 PM, you wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> I assume some of the folks on this list who are doing fiber use Calix ONTs >>> and routers? >>> >>> If I go to the Calix website, maybe as a provider thinking of using them as >>> a vendor, I am totally confused. It is not clear what products they sell >>> or how I would use them. It all seems to be glossy marketing stuff about >>> their agentic AI cloud and market insights. I don’t see a single picture >>> of a piece of hardware. >>> >>> Is this how a lot of ISPs are making money despite charging low prices? Do >>> they have an “agentic workforce” monitoring how their customers use the >>> Internet, cross referencing it to demographics, and mining that data for >>> ads, upselling, etc.? It seems they have special cloud features for MDU >>> managers as well. >>> >>> It seems a lot of cable companies use Amazon’s eero, I wonder if service >>> provider eero is like Calix, or if it’s just the retail eero with a few >>> remote management features added. >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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