I would be interested in a device that's wall mount or tower mount that's a
3 or 4 port poe powered, poe pass thru ethernet switch, bonus for
selectable polarity output. Double bonus for gigabit!



On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 6:10 PM, TJ Trout <[email protected]> wrote:

> Forrest,
>
> If the device was really really nice, had everything I talked about and
> maybe even wifi AP I would buy a few @ $500, $250 is more where I think it
> would be plausible. We would buy maybe 5 @ 250, obviously not a high volume
> thing. Updates, free would be nice but I wouldn't mind spending $50 each
> update for much enhanced functionality...
>
> Yes we are clipping the tab now.
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Matt Jenkins via Af <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Exalt ExtremeAir Radios draw 135watt average over PoE. Telrad Radios we
>> use draw up to 150watt but usually around 120ish.
>>
>>
>>
>> Matthew Jenkins
>> SmarterBroadband
>> [email protected]
>> 530.272.4000
>>
>> On 10/05/2014 04:55 PM, Gino Villarini via Af wrote:
>>
>>> What radio needs 150w?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>> President
>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>> www.aeronetpr.com
>>> @aeronetpr
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: "[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected] <mailto:
>>> [email protected]>>
>>> Reply-To: "[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected] <mailto:
>>> [email protected]>>
>>> Date: Sunday, October 5, 2014 at 7:14 PM
>>> To: "[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected] <mailto:
>>> [email protected]>>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Product Ideas
>>>
>>> This is actually in the category of what I'm expending a fair bit of R&D
>>> on right now.
>>>
>>> The challenge comes cost.   150watt per port is very expensive to do
>>> when factoring in the DC-DC conversion.   20W is  easy.  50W is a bit
>>> harder.  150W gets very expensive quickly.
>>>
>>> As a result, I'm thinking somewhat modular, i.e. pick/choose.
>>>
>>> I also have to be mindful of the competitors in the space, in that I
>>> want to be different in the right ways.   The power injection/switching
>>> space is quite crowded.
>>>
>>> -forrest
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Matt Jenkins via Af <[email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Our infrastructure sites look like this:
>>>
>>>     Shielded Cables -> 8 or 24port shielded patch panel
>>>     -> APC PRM24 with WB Surge Modules
>>>     -> PoE Injectors
>>>     -> Switch / Router
>>>
>>>     PoE Injectors are attached to a Masterswitch.
>>>
>>>
>>>     <pipe dream>
>>>     I know this probably is not feasible but....
>>>     What I would REALLY like is an active PoE midspan injector (8/24
>>>     gigabit port). Something that does not require a site monitor (has
>>>     web/snmp function built in). It takes AC power and can output DC
>>>     to each type of device. This device would be software configurable
>>>     for power type and has apc masterswitch functionality. It would
>>>     need to support up to 150watt per port for WiMAX and Licensed Link
>>>     Radios. It would need to support from 12vdc to 56vdc output. If
>>>     there was a model that also supported power out to a few (4) AC
>>>     outlets I wouldn't even need an APC Masterswitch. The goal is to
>>>     replace all those PoE injectors which don't mount in a rack or on
>>>     a din rail in a box.
>>>     </pipe dream>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     Matthew Jenkins
>>>     SmarterBroadband
>>>     [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>     530.272.4000 <tel:530.272.4000>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     On 10/05/2014 01:19 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>         It's been (quite) a while since I sent one of these messages
>>>         out to the list.
>>>
>>>         With the release of all of our new gigabit injectors, it is
>>>         time for me to decide which products will be next out the door
>>>         at PacketFlux.
>>>
>>>         We've got several products at various stages of completion,
>>>         but almost all of them I expect to be very low volume projects
>>>         - the type of products we complete just because they help fill
>>>         out our product offering instead of expecting a lot of revenue
>>>         from them.   A couple of these have appeared on the website
>>>         recently - I.E. a 2 Relay, 3 Switch module, and the
>>>         voltmeter/shunt input modules.
>>>
>>>         So, what I'd love to hear is some suggestions for products
>>>         PacketFlux could build which would help you in your WISP. I'm
>>>         particularly looking for products which if they existed would
>>>         go at every one of your tower sites, or even better at every
>>>         customer location.  I know these product ideas exist out
>>>         there, and I'd love to hear them.   Feel free to throw ideas
>>>         out which are outside of the narrow niche that you think of
>>>         PacketFlux fitting into.
>>>
>>>         One final note  - there is always a query for an all-in-one
>>>         tower device which includes some mixture of ac power supply,
>>>         dc-dc conversion, battery charging/management, Ethernet
>>>         switch, router, power injection, fiber conversion, etc.. I've
>>>         heard those loud and clear and am aware of that desire.
>>>         There's work being done in-house toward something like that,
>>>         but there are many hurdles left to make it a reality. If
>>>         there's a simplified version of this which would fit a
>>>         specific, widespread, need I'd love to hear about it, but the
>>>         idea of a device you put into your rack and it handles
>>>         everything needed at a tower site is still quite a ways off
>>>         for us.
>>>
>>>         So, throw your best ideas out there... I'd love to take a
>>>         couple and run with them.
>>>
>>>         -forrest
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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