Yeah, I think the ePMP design team did what DEC did... ask your current customers what they want for a new product instead of also asking your competitor's customers. PMP customers have been happy with their silly reflectors for all of these years, so continue on... Once they brought it out and everyone else complained... they got the idea quickly.
It's on their web site, so I assume it's safe to make public. ;-) Agreed. This industry is ripe for innovation and vendors that listen. I don't call UBNT AC innovation, it's just getting the new chip from your supplier and bolting it on. The other stuff they mentioned... yes, that's innovation. It also isn't shipping yet. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rory Conaway via Af" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 1:41:35 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Next article posted - Chapter 52 I will correct that, thanks. The ePMP followed the same design path as the 100 and 450 series. The new company/product line should have been more innovative and the Nanobridges were already on the market. Developing a CPE and a parabolic CPE at minimum should have been done simultaneously along with some other ideas, but hey, that’s my opinion and clearly it didn’t hold much weight 3 years ago. Cambium was clear that they were comfortable with reflectors from day one since that’s what they were doing for 7 years at that point and no other thought was given to anything else. I’m pretty familiar with the Barracuda/Procera discussion as I was probably involved in that. Didn’t know they were making that public though. Xirrus has amazing packet and traffic control at the AP due to its processor/firmware/Procera code and that has major value. Basically, the difference between the vendors now is who is listening and who is not. Mimosa has been listening for a long time. Others had their chance for ideas like this but were stuck in the past that they couldn’t shake. Very sad and definitely outlined in the article. I’ve seen so many companies that have started out with great ideas and great resources that just needed to be more open to ideas. Vivato, SkyPilot, Motorola, and a few others that come to mind that just didn’t want to listen to their customers. Except for remnants of Motorola, the rest of the died in this industry. It will be interesting to see how Cambium responds as Mimosa starts releasing product. Rory From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett via Af Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 10:16 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Next article posted - Chapter 52 My comment is awaiting moderation, but I'll post it here: I believe the Force 110 is still using non-GPS radios. The price on the GPS radios is $500, so radio plus antenna for $130 doesn’t seem likely. The time from ePMP announcement to Force 110 was a year. The Force 100 came out somewhere in the middle. Compare that to Ubiquiti’s timeframe of what, five years between NanoBridge and NanoBeam? I also hate reflectors. Stupid idea when you try to say you’re not satellite… by putting a satellite dish looking object on their house. Radwin is a commercial play. No way can they compete in the residential area, and I’m not sure that they’re trying to. They likely enjoy healthy margins with their commercial and non-access plays. Still N, though. Trango’s PtMP is a joke. Proxim… maybe. It’s not as cheap as the other stuff out there, but it does have a respectable CPE price given that it is the only non-Cambium PMP platform to sync with Cambium PMP… only with more throughput. Still N, though. I had thought it was great that Bitlomat was in the industry, but it didn’t offer enough to persuade me to move. However, now that you can put Bitlotmat firmware on Ubiquiti (and soon others) hardware, it’s more interesting. GPS sync being field tested is interesting.Great for migration from one platform to theirs. AC in in the spring is interesting. They do have superior antennas compared to Ubiquiti. I’m hoping that they’ll be the first GPS AC system and likely at a lower AP cost than Mimosa. Mimosa will be the hands-down performance winner for the foreseeable future. I spent some time with Jamie to further understand the product and Kelly to further understand the company. The APs are reasonably priced, especially given their huge potential. Did you know that they have a Broadcom Network Processor in them, which they hope to do Barracuda\Procera-lite features with? A lot was revealed to me at the show. I assume since it was in public that it’s public knowledge, so I’ll save some of the gems for another time. I don’t share Rory’s affection for continuously upgradability. Give me the best of what’s out there. Customer adds in older sections can be done with gear that I’ve forklifted when going to a new platform elsewhere. All parts continuously moving while I make sure I’m using the best that I can. Where’s that quote of Robert’s from? A lot of Chicago references. Do you have any ties here? ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh Reynolds via Af" < [email protected] > To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 12:07:24 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Next article posted - Chapter 52 Well done. Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com On 10/20/2014 06:00 AM, Rory Conaway via Af wrote: http://www.muniwireless.com/2014/10/19/ubiquiti-cambium-mimosa/ � Rory Conaway Triad Wireless 4226 S. 37th Street Phoenix, Az.� 85040 602-426-0542 [email protected] www.triadwireless.net �
